The first hour of the evening 
			was given to Mark Pruitt of ICCAN. After 
			his presentation and a question-and-answer session, the group took a 
			short break, then moved on to the presentation from Good Energy. 
			Javier Barrios, Good Energy  
			Addressing the joint meeting on behalf of Good Energy was Javier 
			Barrios, managing partner. Accompanying Barrios was Gary Fogelman, 
			business development manager.  
			Barrios began by saying he would offer a brief history of the 
			company and an explanation of who they are, then wanted to go 
			straight to questions from the boards.  
			Good Energy is a company out of New York, but they have offices 
			locally in Peoria.  They sell a variety of products. They serve 
			as consultants in electricity, natural gas and renewable energy.  
			They are involved with energy efficiency and sell a variety 
			of retail lighting products.  
			The firm belongs to the Illinois Energy Professionals 
			Association, which assists in assuring a proper code of conduct for 
			consultants, fair pricing practices and assures the offering of good 
			service by the alternate retail electric suppliers, or ARES.  
			
			  
			Clients they have in Illinois include an aggregation of greater 
			Peoria that includes municipalities in Peoria, Tazewell County and 
			Pekin. They have the second-largest account in New Jersey and serve 
			the nation's largest chamber of commerce in Cincinnati, which has a 
			total of 6,000 small-business members.  
			More locally they are working with Bloomington-Normal, Alton, 
			Granite City and are in Tazewell County, Mason County and Marshall 
			County.  
			In total, their firm represents 350,000 households.  
			Barrios said Ameren is watching Good Energy's aggregation very 
			closely as it is going to influence the tariff drafts that will come 
			in February.  
			Barrios said one of the reasons other communities have gone with 
			Good Energy is their supplier relationships. 
			"In Illinois we have strategic alliance agreements with 16 
			suppliers," he said. "They respect us, and they are going to come to 
			us with their top brass."  
			Snyder asked Barrios about the strategic alliance agreements and 
			supplier relationships.  The question was similar to the one 
			asked earlier of Pruitt.  
			Barrios said Good Energy collects their fees from the supplier or 
			ARES. The city and county will not have to pay for their consulting 
			services.  
			Alderman Tom O'Donohue clarified the question, asking if there 
			were cases when the ARES paid Good Energy to send money their way. 
			Barrios said no, that does not happen.  
			Moving on, Barrios said his firm understands the aggregation 
			process and is there to look out for the client. He added they have 
			marketing programs ready to go as soon as the contracts are signed.  
			Barrios also talked about joining Logan County as a whole with 
			other nearby regions.  He said looking at the entire county; it 
			appeared there were 14,000 households. He said that was a small 
			group, but he had met with a group in Bloomington who would be happy 
			to have Logan County join them.  
			Snyder asked how Logan County would benefit from joining a larger 
			group.  
			Barrios said it came down to leverage. 
			"You'll get a better rate with volume," he said. He used as a 
			comparison Wal-Mart versus small business. He said, "Does everyone 
			know Wal-Mart gets better prices on products because they buy more? 
			"If anybody tells you you'll be better off going out on your own, 
			they don't understand the industry."  
			
			
			  
			Fogelman added that there would be greater interest from the 
			suppliers in a large grouping of customers as opposed to a smaller 
			one.  
			Barrios said even in the larger group, Lincoln, Logan County and 
			the other incorporated areas in the county would still have their 
			own contract. He also invited the boards to attend a meeting in 
			Bloomington on Jan. 31 to learn more about this.  
			County board member Jan Schumacher asked for a better explanation 
			of the meeting.  Barrios said it is a meeting that Good Energy 
			set up with communities from southern Illinois and others interested 
			in aggregation who will listen to suppliers explain their experience 
			as ARES and the variety of programs they have worked with.  
			Andy Anderson asked if Barrios would steer the county toward 
			joining with these larger cities. Barrios said he would not steer, 
			but he would recommend it. Even so, he said each city and town in 
			the county and the county itself would have their own contracts.  
			Snyder asked about this, wondering how that would work with the 
			contracts being different, with different timing. Barrios said the 
			timing would be the same for the purchase of electricity but the 
			contracts would still be different. He later added that it would be 
			his job to see to it that the contracts were similar, and the price 
			would be the same for everyone.  
			Bates asked Barrios to walk through his timeline starting 
			immediately if they were chosen as the consultant.  
			
			[to top of second column]  | 
            
             
  
			 Barrios said the first step would be the referendum 
			campaign. Good Energy has mailings ready to go out encouraging the 
			"yes" vote to the referendum. He said that would be Good Energy's 
			focus until the March 20 election. When the referendum passes, the 
			next step would be the requests for proposals, or RFPs, that would 
			be sent out to suppliers.  
			In May, the bidding would begin.  
			During his presentation, Barrios had a slide presentation that 
			showed a sample of the direct mailing postcard the company would 
			send out to all the households. 
			Schumacher asked about the cards, saying that the card appeared 
			to imply everyone could save money. She said, "We don't want to 
			promote what we can't deliver."  
			Barrios walked through the process of selecting eligible 
			customers, much in the same manner Pruitt had earlier, but that is 
			the process to occur after the referendum passes, so Schumacher 
			expanded on her question, saying the cards might imply everyone 
			would save. 
			"Our concern is you're promising savings that might not be 
			realized," she said.  
			Barrios said this topic had come up in another meeting earlier 
			and the comments had been made, why would you not promote it to the 
			whole city? Barrios said Good Energy would provide a hotline and 
			staff to answer questions from individuals, so the consumer can call 
			the number and get better information.  
			He finished by saying that if Lincoln and Logan County don't like 
			the message, they do not have to go with this marketing.  
			Melody Anderson asked what the city and county responsibilities 
			would be toward customers once a contract was signed.  
			Barrios said the ARES would be the supplier of the electricity, 
			Good Energy would serve the city and county. Ameren will continue to 
			serve the customers, and customers will still take their problems to 
			Ameren.  
			
			  
			County board member Kevin Bateman asked if Good Energy would 
			write letters to those who don't qualify for better pricing from an 
			ARES, explaining that to them. Barrios said no. If a household 
			doesn't qualify because they are all-electric or involved in some 
			other Ameren-only program, they will be opted out automatically.  
			Bates asked if the city and county would in the end sign a 
			contract agreement with the ARES. Barrios said yes, they each would. 
			He explained the contracts would be negotiated between the governing 
			entities and the ARES.  
			Barrios said his firm would act in the best interest of Lincoln 
			and Logan County in assuring the contract was properly written.   
			County board member Bill Martin asked what happens if the city 
			and county decide to not sign a contract with an ARES. 
			Barrios said simply, "We'd be left holding the bag." He expanded 
			his statement by saying, "That is our risk, and we're left with 
			it."  
			Bates asked about the communities that have signed with ARES 
			through Good Energy: Were they all in aggregation agreements now? 
			Barrios said yes, almost all of them were.  Bates then asked if 
			the larger municipalities were saving more money than the smaller 
			ones. Barrios said he didn't know the answer to that question.  
			Asked about their rate, Barrios said they charge 75 cents per 
			megawatt hour. The money is paid to them by the winning ARES.  
			Andy Anderson once again asked his final question of the night: 
			"Why should we hire you?"  
			Barrios said he has been with Good Energy 11 years, and Fogelman 
			has been with the company four years. He said the company has no 
			plans of going anywhere and no one is going to be buying them. He 
			also added Good Energy is already serving commercial businesses in 
			Lincoln, but didn't say who.  
			As the second hour of the Tuesday night meeting wound down. 
			Snyder thanked the members of the county's insurance and legislative 
			committee for joining the city council for the evening. He then 
			turned the floor to Schumacher so she could conclude her committee's 
			meeting.  
			After a short break, the city council then moved into their 
			regular committee of the whole meeting.  
			
[By NILA SMITH] 
   |