Lincoln City Council: Bateman
urges aldermen to return to a committee structure
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[June 13, 2019]
LINCOLN
At the Tuesday night meeting of the Lincoln City Council, newly
elected alderman Kevin Bateman asked that the city council consider
returning to a committee structure. Bateman is transitioning from
the Logan County Board to the city council after serving with the
county for several years.
On the county board a committee structure is used to address
specific issues within the county departments, then summaries of
decisions are taken before the full board for final discussion and
voting.
Bateman said that the committee structure is far better than having
a single committee of the whole board where issues are “brought
forward for the first time to all of us and we try to cram it down
our throat or kick the can down the road.”
In his introduction of the topic Bateman said that there were issues
that could have been addressed properly and more effectively if a
committee had done the work prior to the Committee of the Whole
(COW). “These are all things that could have been discussed in a
committee structured government without us coming here and hearing
it for the first time.”
Bateman also said, “I would really like this council to consider
starting a discussion about going back to some kind of committee
structure government where the aldermen actually make policy, bring
policy forward and change policy.
Bateman noted that he had discussed this with Aldermen Tracy Welch
and Kathy Schmidt, who both were in favor of his suggestion.
City Administrator Beth Kavelman agreed with Bateman noting that she
has more than 26 years of previous experience with the city of
Lincoln as the clerk as well as the mayor of the city. During that
time committee structure was in place and it worked very well. She
noted that there was equal power within the council and that it
complied with the aldermanic form of government.
Welch added that he also agreed and thought the first step should be
to ask the city attorney to investigate what changes would have to
be made. Welch later noted that going back to a committee form of
government would alter the job description and duties of a city
administrator as well as the department heads. He said that it would
have to be a process.
Bateman said he knew one objection would be the added meetings for
aldermen. He said he didn’t think it was as bad as some might think.
He said that the city could go to a two committee structure, and
stay with only four meetings a month. He said if an alderman didn’t
have an interest in a specific committee meeting topic, he or she
would not have to attend.
Under the Illinois Public Meetings Act, and based on the total
number of aldermen on the council, there can be no discussions
outside of council chambers that include more than two aldermen.
Bateman said because of that, aldermen can’t talk about things
before a meeting, so a lot of discussion that could take place
before hand does not because there is no committee to address the
topic.
Referring to his county government career, Bateman sited an example
when a county committee had worked on new policy and ordinances for
more than a year, hammering out all the fine details then presenting
it to the board of the whole for voting. He said that process worked
out very well.
Bateman had said that he wasn’t trying to re-invent the wheel.
Kavelman picked up on that and said he was correct, the city would
not be doing something new, they would be returning to a practice
that was a success in previous councils. She noted that the
committee meetings were called and usually aldermen on a given
committee would meet prior to a regular or COW meeting to discuss
their topics. She said an extra 30 minutes to one hour on the night
of the meeting was not a large investment of time.
Kathy Horn is one of two sitting aldermen who has past experience
with the committee structure. She commented that she thought the
committee structure worked very well and she would be open to
returning to that form of government.
Welch suggested that Bateman write a proposal for the committee
structure. Hoblit asked if the council wanted him to work with
Bateman. He reminded the council that earlier there had been a
request that Hoblit investigate some of the legal details of going
back to a committee structure.
Bateman said that he could summarize his idea. He suggested two
committees, one covering infrastructure – Sewer, Streets, Building &
Zoning, Building and Grounds, Police and Fire. The second committee
would be a legislative committee that would handle finance,
insurance and legal.
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Kavelman said that she didn’t believe two committees would work. She said that
there were eight aldermen so there had to be eight committees with each alderman
chosen to chair one committee. She said that was the equalization of power and
that an aldermanic government means equal power among all aldermen.
Steve Parrott said that there were a lot of “unknowns” that needed to be cleared
up. He said that a 5 p.m. start time for meetings was not going to work for him
personally and he was also not anxious to attend city meetings for four hours at
a time.
Jeff Hoinacki is the other alderman who was on the council when committee
structure was in place. He said his issue was the separation of departments
meant that the full council didn’t have access to all the bills from all the
departments. He couldn’t see where or how money was being spent if he was not on
the committee for a specific department.
He noted that the aldermen do now receive monthly spreadsheets that outline the
bills submitted and paid. Bateman said, yes they do and they still could. He
said payment of bills would still be part of the consent agenda and that
aldermen would still receive all the same financial information they do now.
Kavelman said she understood Hoinacki’s point, but at the same time the
committee meetings were open to all aldermen. In addition, the aldermen did see
all the bills when they signed off on them in their packets at each meeting.
Bateman talked about holding multiple committee meetings on one night. He said
it could get long, but in most cases it is not.
Parrott said his objection was in the nights when those meetings did go
exceptionally long. He said that four hour meetings were not good for the
aldermen, they lost their (thought) track and had difficulty keeping focused
when they are in discussions for such a long evening.
Welch said that the one thing he did not want to see happen was for the city
body of government to become the county board. He said, “We are not the county
board. Our constituents are different, our issues we deal with are different. I
could support a committee structure, but I will not support a committee
structure if it turns into chaos like this.” He went on to say he still wanted
to see a written proposal from Bateman.
Kathy Schmidt noted that as a new member of the council, she is upset that she
doesn’t always understand what is being presented in the COW and regular
meetings. She feels that a committee structure would be beneficial to all
because it would offer more detail and more information before the voting
session and would make her feel like she was making better informed decisions.
Welch’s wife Annette is a member of the Logan County Board and has served that
board for a few years now. Welch said that she has shared comments about the
committee process. He said that there are times when she tells him that a
meeting lasted too long because the discussion process went “on and on and on
and on,” when it might not have had to.
Bateman quipped, “But I’m not there now.” Welch returned with, “No, you’re here,
that’s my point.”
Bateman went on to say that he would work directly with Welch on the proposal
because Welch, while Welch does support a committee structure, he has a
different point of view than Bateman about what that would look like. Bateman
also said that it could be made to work so that aldermen were not investing a
lot more time, but would be accomplishing more.
Kavelman said she would add one last point. In the new alderman orientation
packets the history of the city government had included an outline of the
previous committee structure that aldermen could now look at and understand
better. She added again, that for the aldermanic form of government there would
have to be eight committees.
City Treasurer Chuck Conzo noted that he had worked with the finance committee
back in that era and it had gone very well in his opinion. He noted on that
committee there were only two members, Melody Anderson and Kathy Horn.
Welch commented “For the record, I think eight committees is too much.” Conzo
replied that he thinks two committees would be too few.
At this point in time there is no action to be taken on this topic by the full
council. It is expected that this topic will come back to future Committee of
the Whole meetings.
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