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Asked about his physical interaction with children who were not his own, Sandusky said that aspect of the relationships "just happened that way." "I think a lot of the kids really reached out" for wrestling and hugging, he said. The paper said he grew most animated when talking about his relationships with children and most disconsolate when he spoke of Paterno and Penn State, and the upheaval caused by his indictment. "I don't think it was fair," he is quoted as saying. During the interview, Sandusky said his relationships and activities with Second Mile children did cause some strain with Paterno. He told the paper he worried that having some children with him at hotels before games or on the sideline during games, could have been regarded as a distraction by Paterno. "I would have dreams of we being in a squad meeting and that door fly open and kids come running through chasing one another, and what was I going to do?" he said. "Because, I mean, Joe was serious about football."
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