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Q: Are small-caps good investments now, compared with other segments of the stock market? Wiggins: We don't make short-term market predictions. Small-caps continue to be priced at a premium to larger companies. Ultimately we expect that premium to diminish. We're having difficulty finding cheap small caps and we've tried to position our portfolio defensively with companies that are less sensitive to changes in economic growth. There will always be opportunities to take advantage of market volatility to purchase misunderstood smaller-cap names. The businesses we own are undervalued, but in my opinion, they are the exception in the small-cap universe. If you asked me whether I would rather own the S&P 500 or Russell 2000 index for the next five years, I would choose the S&P 500. Peck: Small-caps are a good place to be because they've got more room for profit growth than large-caps. The ratio of net profits to revenues at large companies averaged 10.8 percent at the end of last year. That's nearly back to where the average was in 2007, when large-cap profit margins were at their historic peak of 11 percent. Smaller companies averaged 5.4 percent at the end of December. There's still quite a ways to go before they return to their peak of 6.8 percent, reached in 2006. Profit margins at larger companies are approaching pre-recession levels because they were able to cut costs faster than small companies. Even in a period of slow economic growth, we can find small companies that are growing rapidly. That's more difficult for the mega-caps (the biggest stocks, such as Exxon Mobil and General Electric) that are more closely tied to the general health of the economy. Q: Is there any particular segment of the market you're looking to invest in now? Wiggins: We don't segment our portfolio by sectors, or by value versus growth stocks. However, the types of companies we invest in are generally strong generators of free cash flow. Peck: We like small banks. Banks in general have been a hated sector since the financial crisis. But for the most part, small community banks were not swept up in all the bad stuff the larger guys did. But the investor sentiment has been negative for small banks, just as it has for large ones. Because the sentiment has been so bad, small banks have been trading at valuation levels that have reached the lowest in decades, on a price-to-book basis. They're currently under-earning versus their potential. Banks' return on assets usually runs at around 1 percent and the vast majority of banks are earning under that. Everything is inherently cyclical and someday they will return to historic averages.
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