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Documents also show the two were having financial problems. In 2008, their home in Maryland was foreclosed and sold at a sheriff's sale. Family members said Mamie told them she moved to Charlotte to be closer to her family, and that it was less expensive to live there than in the Washington area. "She was happy to be back," Williams said. So were Mamie's family members, who said it was at this point that Joseph began talking openly about his past. "He told us to stay out of trouble," said Marcus Williams, Mamie Brown's partially blind nephew, who added that Joseph Brown would often help take care of him by taking him to the store and hanging out with him. After hearing Joseph's story, Sherry Williams said she pressed him to talk at her church. They paid him $250 and, on Feb. 20, 2011, he appeared before the congregation. Dressed in a gray suit, he gave one of the typical speeches he had given hundreds of times, telling them he spent 13 years in a "small cage." "One thing about that little cage is it taught you that no matter how big you thought you were or no matter how bad you thought you were, it would break you down," he said. He warned that there were times when he would become angry. "People ask me ... `Do you have anger? Do you have hatred, frustration, bitterness because of what happened to you?'" he told the congregation. "And I respond, `Yes.'" Then he asked them to pray for him to stay calm because he was afraid of what would happen if he exploded. Looking back, Sherry Williams said there were other hints of trouble. Earlier this year, she asked if they wanted to go on a cruise with other family members. Mamie didn't answer, but Brown called back to say they couldn't because he had a speaking engagement in Nevada. "I thought about it. Why did he call me and not her?" she said. Then Mamie Brown didn't return phone calls about the barbeque. Finally, Robbins called and asked her why she wasn't coming. She was quiet for a moment, then shared that her husband owed at least $7,000 in back taxes. She told Robbins that she and her husband wouldn't be attending the barbeque before somehow the conversation turned to the subject of death. Robbins said Mamie told her that when it is time to die, "you want to be right with the Lord," adding that she was ready. "Maybe it was something that was on her mind and she was just trying to get it out," Robbins said. "It's going to bother me for a long time."
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