"In that society, I was happy and felt like we had become more
militarily powerful," said Oh, who is now 18 and fled to South Korea
in July 2013, five months after the test.
Behind the theater put on by the North Korean state, news of a
nuclear test brings mixed feelings of pride and indifference for
ordinary North Koreans.
After its fourth nuclear test last week, which North Korea says was
a hydrogen bomb, state media showed jubilant people shouting slogans
praising leader Kim Jong Un on the streets of the capital,
Pyongyang.
North Korean state media has shown images of what appeared to be
state-organized rallies after each nuclear test, the first of which
was in 2006.
The celebrations after last week's test featured fireworks, a mass
rally and a choreographed dance.
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"Regardless of how bad Kim Jong Un is, people didn't find having
nuclear weapons bad because we thought it made us stronger," Oh
said.
"It made some people see Kim Jong Un as young and energetic, taking
initiative."
'AMBIVALENCE, CYNICISM'
But a relentless struggle to survive in impoverished North Korea has
meant many people have been too preoccupied to pay too much
attention to news of bombs.
"Back then I was too busy smuggling in order to make money and eat
so I wasn't interested in that kind of thing," said Kim Dan-bi, a
North Korean defector who left in 2011 and now lives in South Korea,
referring to earlier nuclear tests.
Kim was engaged in illicit trade across the China border when she
was in North Korea. Her family members are still there.
"I think it was the same for people around me who were also too busy
worrying about their next meal to care about whether or not there
had been a nuclear test," she said.
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At the same time, the propaganda punch of the nuclear tests holds
for many ordinary North Koreans has diminished each time as they
begin to realize the pursuit of the weapons means more economic
suffering, said Sokeel Park of the Liberty in North Korea (LiNK)
organization, which works with defectors.
"Amongst people in cities that have more access to foreign
information and are the most switched on, there is likely more
ambivalence or even cynicism over the use of precious resources for
things that bring no tangible benefit to the people and cause
worsening relations with the outside world," said Park.
That is especially true among the many North Koreans who have turned
to private trade to survive after famine in the 1990s ended
government hand-outs and crippled a state rationing system, laying
the foundation for a now-thriving gray-market economy.
Oh, who lives on the outskirts of the South Korean capital, Seoul,
said information trickling in to North Korea will slowly challenge
the image of nuclear weapons as a source of national pride.
"It won't make any quick or big change in one day but the way North
Koreans see nuclear weapons will change," he said.
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"People know enough about making nuclear bombs to know it means
there'll be less rice."
(Reporting by Ju-min Park and James Pearson; Editing by Tony Munroe,
Robert Birsel)
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