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		push for elusive deal on bishops 
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		 [October 21, 2016] 
		By Lisa Jucca and Benjamin Kang Lim 
 ROME/HONG KONG/BEIJING (Reuters) - 
		Representatives from the Vatican and China are expected to meet before 
		the end of the month in Rome in an effort to finalize a deal on the 
		ordination of bishops on the mainland, a move aimed at ending a 
		longstanding dispute, according to Catholic Church sources familiar with 
		the negotiations.
 
 The Church sources also told Reuters that China is preparing to ordain 
		at least two new bishops before the end of the year and these 
		appointments would have the blessing of the Vatican. A person with ties 
		to the leadership in Beijing confirmed that these ordinations would go 
		ahead.
 
 For more than six decades, China's ruling Communist Party has strongly 
		opposed Rome's right to ordain Chinese bishops in a bitter contest for 
		authority over as many as 10 million Catholics on the mainland. Bishops, 
		priests and lay Catholics loyal to Rome have faced persecution, which 
		has sparked scepticism over the détente in some Catholic quarters.
 
 In yet a further sign of progress, the Vatican has reached a decision to 
		recognize at least four Chinese bishops who were appointed by Beijing 
		without the consent of the pope and so are considered illegitimate by 
		the Holy See, according to Catholic Church sources and others briefed on 
		the talks. The decision follows a breakthrough meeting in mid-August in 
		Beijing between the Vatican representatives to talks with China and 
		several of these bishops.
 
		 
		For the Vatican, an agreement on the ordination of bishops is important 
		because it would lessen the possibility of a formal split within the 
		Catholic Church in China, which is divided between a community that 
		follows the state-sanctioned Catholic hierarchy and an "underground" 
		community that swears allegiance only to the pope in Rome. A deal on the 
		ordination of bishops would help to unite these two communities, say 
		Catholic Church and Vatican sources.
 An agreement "would definitely remove the risk of a schism (within the 
		Church in China), which for sixty years has been a potential threat," 
		said Elisa Giunipero, a researcher at the Catholic University of Milan 
		who has studied the history of the Catholic Church in China for 20 
		years.
 
 PRIORITY FOR POPE FRANCIS
 
 The latest developments are part of behind-the-scenes negotiations that 
		have been driven by Pope Francis. A deal on the ordination of bishops 
		would be a major leap forward in efforts to bridge a decades-old rift 
		between the Chinese Communist Party and the Vatican.
 
 Since becoming leader of the Catholic Church in March 2013, Francis has 
		made it a priority to chart a new course in the Vatican's contentious 
		relationship with China. Reuters reported in July that Francis had 
		sought to meet President Xi Jinping during a 2014 trip to New York in an 
		effort to smooth the way to talks, and that a joint working group had 
		been set up earlier this year in April to hammer out a deal on the 
		bishops. The issue of full diplomatic relations is not currently on the 
		table. (http://reut.rs/29LTBpp)
 
 A deputy spokesperson for the Vatican, Paloma Garcia Ovejero, said the 
		Holy See had no comment in response to questions from Reuters.
 
 Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying told a daily news 
		briefing in Beijing: "At present the channels for contact and dialogue 
		between the two sides are unimpeded and effective. We are willing to 
		work hard with the Vatican and meet each other halfway".
 
 Vatican officials would like to see the appointment of the bishops 
		before China's Ninth National Assembly of Catholic Representatives, 
		which is expected to convene in December, according to Catholic sources. 
		The Assembly is the highest authority governing the church in China and 
		appoints the heads of the most important state-backed Catholic 
		institutions on the mainland – the Chinese Catholic Patriotic 
		Association and the Chinese Catholic Bishops' Conference.
 
		
		 
		The Assembly last met six years ago when tensions were high between 
		Beijing and the Vatican over China's appointment of new bishops without 
		papal consent. The Vatican retaliated by excommunicating three of these 
		bishops in 2011 and 2012.
 Now, the Vatican is anxious to conclude a deal on the ordination of 
		bishops to head off another showdown with Beijing and to forestall a 
		schism among China's Catholics, the Church sources say.
 
 POSITIVE GESTURE
 
 The ordination of new bishops in China is also pressing because some 30 
		of the more than 100 dioceses on the mainland are currently vacant, 
		while a similar number are led by aging bishops who are 75 or older. 
		Three people familiar with the negotiations said the talks about the 
		appointment of the new bishops were focused on the dioceses of Changzhi, 
		in the northern Shanxi province, and Chengdu, the capital of the 
		southwestern Sichuan province. Separately, a person with ties to the 
		leadership in Beijing said that the new bishops would be ordained in 
		Chengdu and the city of Xichang, in Sichuan.
 
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			It was during the last round of talks in Beijing in August that the 
			Vatican delegates were permitted to meet with several of the bishops 
			whom the pope does not recognize. Catholic sources say they view 
			this as a positive gesture by China, which had previously barred 
			contact between the bishops and Vatican representatives. The 
			meeting, the sources said, paved the way for Vatican recognition of 
			some of these bishops. 
			One of the bishops who met the Vatican delegation was Joseph Ma 
			Yinglin, the bishop of Kunming in Yunnan province, according to 
			Catholic sources. Ma is president of the Chinese Catholic Bishops' 
			Conference and vice-chairman of the Chinese Catholic Patriotic 
			Association. Both institutions answer to the Chinese Communist Party 
			and are not recognized by the Vatican.
 Along with Ma, the other three bishops whom the Vatican is set to 
			recognize are Guo Jincai, the bishop of Chengde in Hebei province 
			near Beijing; Yue Fusheng, the bishop of Harbin in the northern 
			Heilongjiang province; and Tu Shihua, the bishop of Puqi in Hunan 
			province.
 
 In total, there are eight bishops whom the Vatican has refused to 
			recognize. Of the remaining four, two have children or girlfriends 
			and the other two head dioceses where there is already an existing 
			bishop who has been approved by the Vatican, according to Catholic 
			sources.
 
 During the August meeting in Beijing, the sides agreed on the 
			principles that would govern the appointment of new bishops, say 
			people with knowledge of the talks. According to a draft agreement, 
			new Chinese bishops will be chosen by local clergy, with the pope 
			making the final appointment. The pontiff can veto a candidate, for 
			instance on ethical grounds, provided the Vatican presents evidence 
			supporting such a decision to Beijing.
 
			
			 
			OBSTACLES REMAIN
 For the Vatican, which is the only Western state that doesn't have 
			diplomatic ties with Beijing, further détente with China following a 
			deal on the bishops could make life easier for Christians on the 
			mainland who have suffered decades of persecution at the hands of 
			the Chinese authorities. For Beijing, better relations with the Holy 
			See could improve its international standing and ultimately pry the 
			Vatican away from the self-governing island of Taiwan, which China 
			views as a renegade province.
 
 Taiwan's foreign ministry said on Friday it was paying close 
			attention to the developments and exchanges between China and the 
			Vatican, adding that Taiwan and the Vatican had long been friends 
			and had "firm" relations.
 
 In some quarters of the Catholic Church, including among the 
			underground community in China, there is concern over a deal between 
			the Vatican and Beijing. That's especially the case in Hong Kong, 
			where local missions and clergy maintain ties with foreign and 
			Chinese priests working on the mainland, often underground. Some 
			fear the Vatican may make too many concessions to Beijing and that a 
			deal will not lead to an improvement in the lives of Catholics in 
			China.
 
 Despite the progress toward an agreement on the ordination of new 
			bishops, the Vatican and China are still at loggerheads over a range 
			of other issues. In one case, for instance, some Chinese officials 
			are still pushing for the appointment of a bishop without papal 
			approval, according to two Church sources.
 
 The matter of Thaddeus Ma Daqin also needs to be settled. Ma, the 
			auxiliary bishop of Shanghai, was placed under house arrest in 2012 
			when he announced at his ordination as a bishop that he could no 
			longer remain in the state-backed Catholic Patriotic Association. Ma 
			remains under house arrest despite writing in a blog post in June 
			that his move had been "unwise."
 
 There is also the issue of some 30 bishops who belong to the 
			underground Catholic community and who, along with local priests, 
			face pressure from the authorities to join the state-sanctioned 
			Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association. The Vatican is hoping that 
			China will recognize these bishops once the issue of the eight 
			bishops it considers illegitimate has been resolved, say Catholic 
			officials.
 
 (Reporting by Lisa Jucca and Benjamin Kang Lim; Additional reporting 
			by Philip Pullella in Rome, J.R. Wu in Taipei and Ben Blanchard in 
			Beijing; Editing by Peter Hirschberg.)
 
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