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				 At the same time, TV and movie producers are making their own 
				podcasts, which are fast and relatively inexpensive to produce, 
				in a search for the next breakout hit in a rapidly expanding 
				crossover market. 
 Podcasts like "Dirty John" and "Homecoming" are already making 
				their way to television with adaptations of "Dr. Death" and 
				dozens of others underway.
 
 "It's the wild wild west for podcasts. The lines have gotten 
				completely blurred," said R.J. Cutler, producer of the 
				"Nashville" TV series and "The World According to Dick Cheney" 
				documentary. He recently launched his first podcast, the 
				satirical "Oval Office Tapes."
 
 Portable and mostly free to download on smartphones, the number 
				of Americans listening to podcasts has surged 35 percent in the 
				last three years as content expands beyond radio shows on 
				platforms, according to a study by consumer data company 
				statista.com.
 
				
				 
				
 Some 44 percent of Americans say they have listened to a podcast 
				at least once but it's the 56 percent who have never listened 
				that has attracted Endeavor Audio, a new unit of Hollywood 
				talent and deal-making agency WME/Endeavor.
 
 Endeavor Audio connects established producers with podcast 
				makers and vice versa with a mission to develop, market and 
				monetize the genre.
 
 That includes formats like game shows and competitions, said 
				Moses Soyoola, senior vice president of Endeavor Audio, which is 
				working on a podcast series with television's "Law & Order" 
				franchise creator Dick Wolf.
 
 Advertisers are taking note. Ad spending on podcasts are 
				forecast to almost double to $659 million in 2020 from $313 
				million in 2017, according to a study in June by the Interactive 
				Advertising Bureau.
 
 Soyoola said advertisers pay at least $20 for each 1,000 
				listeners a podcast gets. A premium podcast can charge more than 
				$100 for every 1,000 listeners.
 
 Paranormal mystery "Limetown" is a prime example of the 
				potential. Season 2 of the podcast was released this month, a 
				prequel novel is coming in November, and a "Limetown" TV show 
				starring Jessica Biel is in development for Facebook Watch.
 
 DON'T ALWAYS TRANSLATE
 
 To be sure, successful podcasts don't always translate into 
				visual hits. The TV version of "Alex, Inc," about a man who 
				starts his own company, was canceled earlier this year after 
				just one season. "Crimetown" is still in the early stages of 
				development for television after being announced a year ago.
 
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				And the 2015 deal to adapt "Serial," whose first season was 
				downloaded globally some 240 million times according to the 
				makers, is stuck in the development stage with "The Lego Movie" 
				directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller.
 Yet as players like Apple, YouTube and Facebook expand original 
				content to compete with Netflix, Amazon Prime Video and 
				traditional networks, a good track record in one medium is a 
				safer bet than something untried.
 
 "For the buyers, it gives them some comfort - the same as a 
				best-seller book. It's more likely to have an audience but you 
				never know. It's got to be well executed," said podcast producer 
				Cutler.
 
 "Dirty John," a tale of deception that has been downloaded more 
				32 million times according to its makers, makes its TV debut on 
				Bravo on Nov. 25, starring Connie Britton.
 
				Executive producer Alexandra Cunningham said the TV series would 
				flesh out the characters heard but only imagined in the podcast 
				and "explore questions that maybe you asked when you were 
				finished (with the podcast)."
 "Homecoming," launched on Amazon Prime Video last week to 
				glowing reviews, stars Julia Roberts in her first lead TV role. 
				Executive producer Sam Esmail said "the throw-back thriller, 
				based in characters" aspect of the podcast was what inspired him 
				to turn it into a visual show.
 
 Examples of other crossovers include the first scripted horror 
				podcast, "The Horror of Dolores Roach," adapted from an 
				off-Broadway show, was launched in October. YouTube has ordered 
				an animated series based on the podcast "Dumb People Town," to 
				be co-produced by "Arrested Development" TV star Will Arnett.
 
 (Reporting by Jill Serjeant; editing by Bill Tarrant and Susan 
				Thomas)
 
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