Lincoln aldermen labor over
establishing fees and fines related to recreational marijuana
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[December 12, 2019]
This week discussion of recreational marijuana continued in the
chambers of the Lincoln City Hall. The city council had already set
ordinances allowing for resale and grower businesses within the city
limits. The current discussion centered on setting rules and
stipulations for legal sales.
On Monday, December 2nd the council voted that on-site consumption
of cannabis would not be permitted within the city of Lincoln.
Because this is a rule that store owners will have to abide by, the
next step in the process is to establish a fine for violations.
Aldermen spent quite a bit of time discussing how to approach this
rule as well as discussing the business license fees for the retail
cannabis stores.
The discussion began by talking about possession rules. City
Attorney John Hoblit reviewed what is legal according to state
guidelines for Illinois residents and said that the rules are
different for non-residents.
He shared that beginning January 1, 2020, if obtained legally an
individual may have in his/her possession 30 buds of marijuana
flower, five grams of processed marijuana or 500 milligrams of THC.
It was noted later that possession in a vehicle includes the product
being in a sealed child-proof container. If the container is open
inside the vehicle, then that would be a violation subject to fine
and/or arrest.
Hoblit said that while reviewing the laws and working to establish a
document for aldermen to review, another issue had arisen with the
terminology related to possession in one’s “own home.” The question
arises what is “the privacy of one’s own home?” Hoblit said that for
example if someone is smoking cannabis in their front yard where
everyone can see, then that is not being done in private even though
it is being done on private property. He went on to say that on the
other side, if the consumption is taking place in the back yard of a
home that has a fence, then there is a reasonable expectation of
privacy for the homeowner, and that should be alright.
Hoblit also noted that none of these allowable locations apply to
those living in federally assured housing such as the housing
authority in Lincoln. He said that because recreational use is not
legal on a federal level, and the federal housing is supported by
federal dollars, those properties would be exempt from local or
state laws.
Regarding possession and illegal transportation, Hoblit also shared
that the current fines are $250 for possession up to 10 grams and
$750 for possession from 10 to 30 grams. There is also a Class A
misdemeanor charge for criminal transport of cannabis. The arresting
police officer will be responsible for making a decision if the
violation is that of a city ordinance or should the suspect be
charged for the misdemeanor.
Ron Keller said that looking at state rule 10.35 pertaining to
cannabis the word public is defined as a location where usage can be
“observed by others.”
Keller also noted that he had a few concerns about ‘one’s own home.’
He said for example, one person in the household might not be
permitted to smoke cannabis inside the home. That person might have
to go outside to a shed or shelter to consume marijuana, so that was
not technically one’s own home. Hoblit said that was a good point
and the wording for the city documents could be revised to say one’s
own property.
Another question came from both Keller and City Administrator Beth
Kavelman. What would be the rule for a guest in the home where
cannabis is regularly consumed anyway? Could that guest also consume
though not in his or her own home.
It was mentioned that the fines for possession could be
strengthened, but police Chief Paul Adams said he wasn’t sure the
city should do that. He said the city fines are already higher than
the state and the big issue is just because a fine is imposed does
not mean the violator is going to pay it. He said there are a lot of
fines on the books that have not been paid. Those fines have been
turned over to collection agencies but collection is not all that
effective.
Steve Parrot said he would be interested in knowing what 30 grams of
processed cannabis costs. He said if someone can afford hundreds of
dollars for the drug, then they can afford the fine. Kevin Bateman
said he agreed with Parrott, but Jeff Hoinacki reminded the council
that Adams had just said the fines are not being paid. The comments
prompted Tracy Welch to ask if the city should actually be
considering fines based on the violators ability to pay.
Parrott asked if there could be some kind of purchase control at the
point of sale, if a customer has unpaid fines perhaps the retailer
could then refuse to sell product to the person. Hoblit said the
city didn’t have the authority to do something like that.
Bateman had suggested earlier in the evening that the Adams and
Hoblit work together to draft the ordinance and fine amounts. At the
end of the discussion he made the same suggestion that something be
drafted and brought to the council for vote on December 16th.
Establishing retail fees and fines
Kevin Bateman opened this discussion saying that the licensing fee
for alcohol establishments with gambling is $2,500 per year. Bateman
suggested that the cannabis license be double that amount at $5,000
for the first year only then $3,500 for license renewals.
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Bateman said that for illegal sales (to underage persons or selling more than
the allowable quantities), he would suggest that the fine be $3,500 for the
first offense, $7,500 for the second offense, and if a third offense occurs the
license be pulled and that retailer never be allowed another license in Lincoln.
Jeff Hoinacki asked if there would be a time period for the violations. Bateman
said no, it would be life of the license, regardless of if it were three
violations in one year or in five years.
Parrott said he would like for the fine to have more bite and suggested the
second offense be $10,000.
Ron Keller wanted to know why the cannabis license should be so much higher than
liquor. Bateman said that the cannabis was going to be a lucrative business in
Lincoln and the license fee is reasonable.
The discussion that ensued centered on the thought that the city is picking on
the cannabis dealers and making them pay more because of what they are selling.
Parrott said that he was okay with that, particularly in the area of fines
because these dealers are “messing with people’s lives.” He said he did not want
them to believe they could violate the laws and get by with a “hand slap.”
Bateman also said that in his research of states that are establishing rules,
the cannabis fines tend to be higher than fines for alcohol.
Sam Downs said that he was concerned about the “three strikes and you’re out”
rule coupled with “for the life of the business.” He said that was excessive. He
added that those kind of restrictions are not placed on businesses selling
alcohol or tobacco.
City treasurer Chuck Conzo said he would like to see fines high, but he also
agreed with Downs that having an ‘open end’ on violations is not right. His
suggestion was three violations in three years. He said the three-year clock
could start at the date of the offense and reset for three years from the date
of the last offense.
Welch said that once again if felt like the dollar amounts were being set based
on ability to pay and he said that was not done for liquor. Conzo said that was
a different product and a different situation. However, Welch said the fact is,
alcohol is everywhere in the city. He said the city police do stings and find
violators. He asked Adams how many times the stings produce violations. Adams
said quite often. Welch went on to ask, “What does this say to people coming to
(Lincoln) to open a new business?”
Conzo however said this was not the same. There will only be one retail cannabis
store so there won’t be others coming to town. Welch said, not at the moment,
but the state could change their minds about the number of retailers. Then there
would be a possibility that more would want to come to Lincoln.
Hoblit said that the city should be aware, this is not a decision they have to
make before the end of the year. While some decisions did have to be made before
January 1st such as whether or not to permit at all, this one could wait. He
said that the state is going to be very stringent in their fines and fees
because this is a new venture and no one knows what to expect. He said that down
the road, the state may relax the rules, and yes there could be more room for
competition.
Hoblit said that the city should be aware of this, and could set rules now that
later on might be changed or amended to fit the needs of the city and the
retailers.
The topic eventually moved on to in-store consumption. Again this is not a black
and white area for the council or the retailers. The city has said there shall
be no in-store consumption, but the question posed asked how a retailer to deal
with the person who consumes a product as he or she is leaving the store. The
business owner or store clerk should not be expected to try and stop that
person.
Adams said that those cases would have to be determined by the arresting
officer. The police would need to determine if the customer was given permission
to consume or did he or she just do it.
Bateman said his initial thought was that the no in-store consumption rule would
apply to sampling. Customers will not be permitted to come in and ‘try’ a
product before they purchase it.
Hoblit said that for the store owner or employee there is an easy fix for this –
self reporting. If a store clerk witnesses on site consumption he or she could
report it to the police and that would relive the business of the liability for
that customer.
Hoblit also suggested that the city should review how it approaches smoking
violations for consumption in businesses, and perhaps use that as a model.
For the second half of the cannabis discussion on Tuesday evening, there was
nothing placed on the next voting agenda. There is still work to do on this
topic including more research by Hoblit and drafting the appropriate documents
for approval.
For the voting session on December 16th, aldermen will have one action item
pertaining to license fees for retail establishments selling recreational
cannabis. As always the council can table the item if they feel they are not
prepared to take a vote.
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