Explainer: What to expect from the televised Trump impeachment hearings
next week
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[November 09, 2019]
By Susan Cornwell
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Democrats
launch the public phase of their impeachment inquiry into President
Donald Trump next week, with open, televised hearings set for Wednesday
and Friday in the House of Representatives.
Since launching their inquiry on Sept. 24 into allegations that Trump
abused his office for personal political gain, lawmakers in the
Democratic-run House of Representatives have been holding hearings with
current and former officials behind closed doors. Now they want to take
their case for impeachment to the American public.
Here is what to expect from the hearings.
WHY ARE DEMOCRATS HOLDING THESE HEARINGS?
Democrats want to build a strong public case that Trump abused his
presidential powers by pressuring Ukraine to launch corruption
investigations involving the son of Joe Biden, the former vice president
who is vying to be the Democratic nominee to run against Trump in the
2020 presidential elections. Democrats want the broadest possible public
support should they choose to formally impeach Trump, which could happen
by December. Any trial would take place in the Senate, which is
controlled by Trump's Republican Party.
Televised hearings will "be an opportunity for the American people to
evaluate the witnesses for themselves," House Intelligence Committee
chairman Adam Schiff said.
In the hearings, the Democrats want to present evidence that Trump's
officials delayed security aid to Kiev and, with the help of Trump's
personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, used the lure of a possible White House
meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to try to get
Ukrainian compliance with Trump's demands.
Trump has denied doing anything wrong.
HOW DO DEMOCRATS PLAN TO MAKE THEIR CASE?
Democrats have invited three diplomats who have previously testified
behind closed doors to recount what they knew or heard about Trump and
Giuliani's dealings with Ukraine. These witnesses will be questioned by
committee staff attorneys as well as lawmakers including Schiff and the
senior Republican on the committee, Devin Nunes.
The Democrats will ask the diplomats to discuss their understanding of
events before and after a July 25 phone call between Trump and Zelenskiy.
According to a rough White House transcript of that call, the president
pressed Zelenskiy to investigate a discredited conspiracy theory
involving the 2016 election about a Democratic Party computer server, as
well as a Ukrainian energy company in which Hunter Biden had been a
board member.
Democrats are also expected to try to use the hearings to show that
Trump obstructed justice - the basis of another possible article of
impeachment - by detailing how he has blocked some witnesses from
appearing and otherwise refused to cooperate with their probe. The White
House has called the inquiry partisan and illegitimate as a basis for
not cooperating.
Trump has complained bitterly on Twitter that the process does not allow
him to be represented in the intelligence committee. "I get NO LAWYER &
NO DUE PROCESS," he wrote in one tweet.
However, Trump and/or his lawyer would be allowed to attend later
hearings before the House judiciary committee, which will debate what,
if any, articles of impeachment should be filed and sent to the floor
for a vote.
WHO ARE THE WITNESSES?
The top U.S. diplomat in Ukraine, William Taylor, is considered a
critical witness to the case against Trump. Taylor was upset to find out
that security aid to Ukraine, as well as a White House meeting between
Trump and Zelenskiy, had been delayed for political reasons.
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The committee room in the Longworth House Office Building where the
first public hearings in the impeachment inquiry against U.S.
President Donald Trump are scheduled to take place is shown on
Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., November 6, 2019. REUTERS/Joshua
Roberts
"It's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a
political campaign," Taylor wrote earlier this year in a text
message released by House investigators.
Another senior U.S. diplomat, George Kent, will appear with Taylor
at Wednesday's hearing. Kent said in closed-door testimony that he
had been alarmed by efforts by Giuliani and others to pressure
Ukraine to accede to Trump's demands.
Former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch will testify on
Friday. She says she was ousted from her post after she came under
attack by Giuliani. She says Giuliani's associates “may well have
believed that their personal financial ambitions were stymied by our
anti-corruption policy in Ukraine.”
The Democrats also could announce additional witnesses they expect
to call to testify.
Republicans intend to request their own witnesses, possibly
including the whistleblower, the U.S. official whose complaint about
Trump's dealings with Ukraine touched off the impeachment inquiry.
Democrats can veto the Republicans' witnesses.
HOW DO REPUBLICANS PLAN TO RESPOND?
Republicans have painted the Democratic-led inquiry as a partisan
exercise and will seek to provide a different narrative for the
millions of Americans expected to watch the hearings, while
attempting to cast doubt on witness testimony.
They said on Friday Representative Jim Jordan, one of Trump's most
aggressive and tenacious defenders, would move to the intelligence
committee for the public hearings phase of the inquiry.
Republicans may also follow the lead of Republican Representative
Michael Turner, a member of the intelligence committee who said in
September that Trump's telephone conversation with Zelenskiy was
"not ok," but impeachment would be an "assault" on the electorate.
Republicans are already attacking the Democratic witnesses, saying
that Yovanovitch's recall as ambassador was a side issue, and that
other witnesses' knowledge of key events was largely third-hand.
"He (William Taylor) is admitting that he had no first-hand or
second-hand knowledge of any of the developments," a Republican
party official told Reuters. "Yet Democrats are presenting him as
their star witness for this whole endeavor to impeach the
president."
Republicans can also be expected to argue that Ukrainian officials
did not feel pressured because they did not even know the $391
million in security aid had been held up at the time Trump asked
them last July for a "favor." They have also emphasized that the
Ukrainians never announced the investigations Trump wanted, and that
Zelenskiy said he did not feel "pushed" by Trump.
(Reporting by Susan Cornwell; additional reporting by Richard Cowan,
David Morgan, and Mark Hosenball; editing by Ross Colvin and Bill
Berkrot)
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