Why Gordon Sondland is key witness in Trump impeachment hearings
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[November 20, 2019]
by
Mark Hosenball
(Reuters) - The U.S. Ambassador to the
European Union, Gordon Sondland, will on Wednesday become the first
witness with a direct line of communication to President Donald Trump to
testify in public to the Democratic-led impeachment inquiry.
Sondland spoke to Trump half a dozen times from mid-July to
mid-September, according to the testimony of other witnesses, and could
shed light on whether Trump abused his power by making U.S. security aid
to Ukraine contingent on Kiev's agreement to investigate Burisma, an
energy company on which Hunter Biden, the son of former Vice President
and political rival Joe Biden, had served as a board member.
He will likely face tough questioning from Democratic and Republican
lawmakers at the U.S. House of Representatives Intelligence Committee
hearing following his revision of previous closed-door testimony to say
there was a link between $391 million in aid that was withheld and the
investigations Trump wanted. Initially, he testified that he knew of no
preconditions to the assistance.
Here are some questions about Sondland and his importance to the
impeachment inquiry:
WHAT ROLE HAS SONDLAND PLAYED IN U.S. RELATIONS WITH UKRAINE?
Sondland was one of three officials who largely took over U.S.-Ukraine
policy in May. Career U.S. diplomats have portrayed Sondland in their
testimony as a central figure in what became a shadow Ukraine policy
operation, undercutting official channels and pressing Kiev to
investigate the Bidens.
Ukraine is not part of the European Union but aspires to membership,
making Ukraine issues part of Sondland's official remit. But his
involvement was viewed as a problem by some White House National
Security Council (NSC) officials.
Trump named Sondland to the post after Sondland, a hotel entrepreneur,
donated $1 million to Trump's inaugural committee.
WHAT MIGHT SONDLAND BE ASKED TO TELL THE INQUIRY ABOUT TRUMP AND
UKRAINE?
Democrats have heard testimony that Sondland has had frequent contact
with Trump and can provide a first-hand account of Trump's interest in
pressing Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to announce an
investigation into the Bidens. He will also face questions about the
role of the president's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani in that effort.
Lawmakers are also likely to delve into one phone conversation between
Sondland and Trump on July 26 in which a witness says Sondland reassured
Trump the Ukrainians would agree to investigate the Bidens. The call
took place the day after Trump's phone conversation with Zelenskiy that
is at the heart of the inquiry.
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U.S. Ambassador to the EU Gordon Sondland poses ahead of a meeting
with European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker and White
House senior adviser Jared Kushner (unseen) at the EU Commission
headquarters in Brussels, Belgium, June 4, 2019. REUTERS/Francois
Lenoir/File Photo
David Holmes, a U.S. embassy staffer, testified that Sondland told
him after the July 26 call that Trump only cared about "big stuff"
in Ukraine, like "the Biden investigation."
He may also be asked about a July 10 White House meeting where,
according to the testimony of one NSC official, Sondland made clear
that the Ukrainians would have to agree to investigate the Bidens,
as well as Burisma, for Zelenskiy to get an Oval Office meeting with
Trump.
HOW HAS SONDLAND'S STORY CHANGED?
Sondland told lawmakers during closed door testimony in October that
he did not know about any preconditions on U.S. security aid to the
Ukraine government, which was approved by Congress to help it fight
Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine.
But on Nov. 4, he sent the congressional committees an addendum,
saying statements from other witnesses had refreshed his
recollection about certain conversations from early September.
In his addendum, he said he now remembered that he had told an aide
to the Ukrainian president in early September that the United States
"likely" would not send the aid until Ukraine provided an
anti-corruption statement they had been discussing.
Sondland referred to prepared testimony by William Taylor, the top
diplomat in Ukraine, about a conversation he had with Tim Morrison,
a former National Security Council official. In that conversation,
according to Taylor, Sondland told an aide to the Ukrainian
president that the security money would not come until Ukraine
agreed to investigate Burisma.
Sondland also did not recall his July 26 phone conversation with
Trump in his original testimony. A person familiar with the matter
said he intends to address the issue on Wednesday.
(Reporting by David Morgan, Karen Freifeld and Mark Hosenball;
editing by Richard Valdmanis and Grant McCool)
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