Trump ex-Russia adviser Fiona Hill testifies in impeachment inquiry
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[October 15, 2019]
By Jonathan Landay and Patricia Zengerle
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Donald Trump's
former Russia adviser testified for more than nine hours on Monday
behind closed doors, the latest witness summoned in the impeachment
inquiry against the U.S. president over his request that Ukraine
investigate a political rival.
The Democrats' rapidly progressing inquiry could prompt the House of
Representatives to approve articles of impeachment - formal charges -
leading to a trial in the Senate on whether to remove Trump from office.
Fiona Hill, former senior director for European and Russian Affairs on
Trump's National Security Council, recounted a July 10 meeting in
Washington that she attended with senior Ukrainian and U.S. officials,
including U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland,
according to a person familiar with her testimony.
Hill said Sondland raised the matter of investigations, which she and
others took as a reference to a probe into Democratic presidential
candidate Joe Biden and his son Hunter, who had served on the board of a
Ukrainian gas company, said the person, who spoke on condition of
anonymity.
Alarmed at what she heard, Hill said she left the meeting and was
advised to see National Security Council lawyer John Eisenberg, the
person said.
Hill said Sondland appeared to be coordinating with Mick Mulvaney, the
acting White House chief of staff, the person said.
The meeting happened about two weeks before a July 25 phone call in
which Trump asked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to investigate
unsubstantiated allegations against the Bidens, the call at the center
of the investigations.
The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Democratic Representative Jamie Raskin told reporters Hill, who spoke to
the House Intelligence Committee and two other panels, "was a remarkably
thorough and authoritative witness" who recalled "particular events and
particular meetings".
As they have done in the past, Republican lawmakers who have shown
little inclination to remove Trump complained that the hearings were
closed to the public and that transcripts were not being released.
The pace of the House Democrats' investigation quickened on Monday as
they lined up additional witnesses to testify in closed sessions.
Michael McKinley has agreed to appear voluntarily for a closed
transcribed interview on Wednesday, just days after he announced his
resignation as a senior adviser to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.
Also, a person familiar with the proceedings confirmed Deputy Assistant
Secretary of Defense Laura Cooper would be interviewed by the committees
on Friday.
Trump has denied wrongdoing in his dealings with Ukraine.
Adding to the almost dizzying number of developments, the Wall Street
Journal reported federal investigators for at least the past couple of
months have been questioning witnesses as they look into Rudy Giuliani's
business dealings in Ukraine. Giuliani has been acting as Trump's
personal lawyer.
Justice Department officials in Washington referred a request for
comment to the U.S. District Court in the Southern District of New York,
where a spokesman declined to comment.
Giuliani faces a Tuesday deadline to produce documents related to the
Ukraine matter subpoenaed by the House Intelligence Committee. He has
not said whether he will comply.
The former New York mayor has defended his actions as proper in his role
as Trump's lawyer.
'UNFOUNDED, FALSE CLAIMS'
The Trump administration's removal in May of Marie Yovanovitch as U.S.
ambassador to Ukraine may have figured in Hill's testimony.
On Friday, Yovanovitch testified she had been ousted based on "unfounded
and false claims" after coming under attack by Giuliani. Giuliani had
been working to get Ukraine to investigate Biden, a former vice
president and contender for the Democratic nomination to face Trump in
the November 2020 presidential election.
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Fiona Hill leaves the Capitol building after giving a full day of
testimony during the ongoing House of Representatives impeachment
inquiry into U.S. President Trump on Capitol Hill in Washington,
U.S., October 14, 2019. REUTERS/L
Democrats have accused Trump of pressuring a vulnerable U.S. ally to
dig up dirt on a domestic rival after withholding $391 million in
U.S. security aid. Zelenskiy agreed to investigate and Trump
eventually allowed the aid.
The British-born Hill, who left her White House job shortly before
the July 25 call but remained on the payroll into August, had
advocated a tough U.S. approach on Moscow even as Trump was more
accommodating toward Russian President Vladimir Putin.
The White House demanded Hill limit her testimony to the contents of
the July 25 telephone call and warned she could not discuss internal
deliberations or diplomatic communications about the conversation,
according to a letter dated Monday from a White House lawyer to
Hill's attorney that was seen by Reuters.
In the letter to attorney Lee Wolosky, White House Deputy Counsel
Michael Purpura cited the doctrine of executive privilege, which is
intended to protect communications between the president and close
advisers to ensure candid, private advice.
Purpura acknowledged that because Trump released the summary of his
call with Zelenskiy, it was not covered by executive privilege. But,
he wrote, Trump had not waived executive privilege applying to
internal deliberations surrounding the call or to other classified
materials.
Representatives for Wolosky and the White House did not immediately
respond to a requests for comment on the letter.
On Thursday, committees are scheduled to receive testimony from
Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the EU.
Sondland, a Trump backer and not a career diplomat, participated in
a text message exchange with Bill Taylor, the top U.S. diplomat in
Ukraine. Democrats say it reveals concern among aides that Trump's
pressure on Ukraine to investigate Biden was improper.
Sondland is expected to be asked why he relayed from Trump to other
diplomats that the president said no "quid pro quos" connecting the
Biden investigation with the U.S. aid. Quid pro quo is a Latin term
meaning a favor for a favor.
WHISTLEBLOWER TESTIMONY
As talks continue over whether the whistleblower from within the
U.S. intelligence community who prompted the inquiry will testify,
Trump weighed in on Twitter, demanding the person testify and the
individual's identity be revealed.
Negotiations between representatives for the whistleblower and
congressional committees were deadlocked over Senate Intelligence
Committee requests that the individual provide testimony in person,
while the House committees were willing to exchange questions and
answers in writing, according to two people familiar with the
negotiations.
The House panels also are scheduled this week to hear from Deputy
Assistant Secretary of State George Kent and State Department
Counselor Ulrich Brechbuhl, a top aide to Pompeo.
Lawmakers also may debate whether to seek to compel testimony from
Giuliani. On Thursday, two Giuliani associates - Ukraine-born Lev
Parnas and Belarus-born Igor Fruman - who helped him with his
efforts to investigate the Bidens - were charged with scheming to
violate U.S. campaign finance laws.
(Reporting by Jonathan Landay and Patricia Zengerle; Additional
reporting by Karen Freifeld, Mark Hosenball, Makini Brice and Lisa
Lambert; Writing by Will Dunham and Richard Cowan; Editing by Grant
McCool, Peter Cooney and Lincoln Feast)
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