Highlights of the Democratic debate: Warren pile-on, questions about age
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[October 16, 2019]
By Trevor Hunnicutt and Jarrett Renshaw
WESTERVILLE, Ohio (Reuters) - The 12
Democrats meeting in the fourth presidential debate on Tuesday night
found a unifying message right off the bat: Republican President Donald
Trump is a corrupt president who must go.
The Democrats used some of their harshest language yet against Trump in
their first matchup since the launch of a congressional impeachment
inquiry into Trump's efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate leading
rival Joe Biden.
The unity gave way to some sharp clashes later in the debate over
healthcare and a wealth tax. Democrats also found a new target: U.S.
Senator Elizabeth Warren, who has surged into a virtual tie with Biden
in many Democratic opinion polls.
Here are some highlights:
CALLS FOR IMPEACHMENT
Biden, a former vice president, joined U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders in
calling Trump "the most corrupt president in modern history."
Warren said she called for Trump's impeachment after former Special
Counsel Robert Mueller's findings on Russian interference in the 2016
U.S. election.
Congress did not move to impeach, she said, "and look what happened:
Donald Trump broke the law again."
Billionaire environmentalist Tom Steyer, who has poured millions into an
impeach-Trump fund since 2017, tipped his hat to his rivals in his first
debate.
"Every candidate here is more decent and coherent and patriotic than
that criminal in the White House," said Steyer, the last candidate to
jump into the race.
A WARREN PILE-ON
Warren's reward for closing in on Biden? She became the punching bag.
Pete Buttigieg, the South Bend, Indiana, mayor, turned on the senator
from Massachusetts after she answered a question about whether taxes
would go up under the Medicare for All government healthcare proposal by
saying "costs" would go up.
That was "a yes or no question that didn't get a yes or no answer,"
Buttigieg said.
Sanders chided Warren for not being clear on whether Medicare for All
plans, based on the government-run Medicare program for Americans 65 and
older, would raise taxes, falling back on his favorite line about having
written the "damn bill." He said a majority of people would save money
on their healthcare costs, but "I do think it's appropriate to
acknowledge that taxes will go up."
Amy Klobuchar, a U.S. senator from Minnesota, piled on, telling Warren:
"You are making Republican talking points" by proposing a plan that
would eliminate private insurance. She added: "The difference between a
plan and a pipe dream is something that you can get done.”
As if on cue, the Trump campaign promptly put out a news release
criticizing Warren's answer. Buttigieg's campaign followed suit.
TO TAX OR NOT TO TAX
Businessman Andrew Yang said taxing wealth, as opposed to income, was
bad policy, attacking a position supported by several Democrats,
including Warren and Sanders.
"We should not be looking to other countries' mistakes," said Yang.
"Instead we should look at what Germany, France, Denmark and Sweden
still have, which is a value-added tax and we give the American people a
tiny slice of every Amazon sale, every Google search, every robot truck
mile, every Facebook ad, we can generate hundreds of billions of dollars
and then put it into our hands because we know best how to use it."
Warren explained her plan, which she said would give young Americans
better economic opportunities - taxing 2% of people's net worth above
$50 million and 3% over $1 billion.
"My question is not why do Bernie and I support a wealth tax," Warren
said. "It's why ... does everyone else on this stage think it is more
important to protect billionaires than it is to invest in an entire
generation?"
GUN CONTROL GOT PERSONAL
In an exchange on gun control, Buttigieg and former U.S. Representative
Beto O'Rourke of Texas renewed a long-running rivalry.
The two have a history of disagreement on the subject. Buttigieg does
not support O'Rourke's proposal to force people to sell some of their
assault weapons and handguns to the government.
During the debate, O'Rourke described gun violence as a crisis and said
politicians should take their lead from activists who are pushing for
mandatory gun buybacks.
"Let's follow their inspiration and lead - and not be limited by the
polls and the consultants and the focus groups," O'Rourke told Buttigieg.
"The problem isn't the polls; the problem is the policy," Buttigieg shot
back. "And I don't need lessons from you on courage, political or
personal."
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Democratic presidential candidates Senator Bernie Sanders, former
Vice President Joe Biden and Senator Elizabeth Warren applaud as
they pose together at the start of the fourth U.S. Democratic
presidential candidates 2020 election debate in Westerville, Ohio,
U.S., October 15, 2019. REUTERS/Shannon Stapleton
VETERANS BATTLE
Military veterans Buttigieg and U.S. Representative Tulsi Gabbard
tussled over Trump's abrupt decision to pull U.S. troops out of
northern Syria, which opened the door for Turkey to cross the border
and attack the Kurds, a longtime U.S. ally.
Gabbard, an Iraq war veteran and major in the U.S. National Guard,
said the assault on the Kurds was part of a long-failed U.S. policy
of seeking "regime change" in the Middle East.
"Donald Trump has the blood of the Kurds on his hands, but so do
many of the politicians in our country from both parties who have
supported this ongoing regime change war in Syria that started in
2011, along with many in the mainstream media," she said.
Buttigieg, who served in Afghanistan as part of the Naval Reserves,
challenged Gabbard, saying she was pointing the finger in the wrong
direction.
"The slaughter going on in Syria is not a consequence of American
presence, it's a consequence of a withdrawal and a betrayal by this
president of American allies and American values," Buttigieg said.
HOW OLD IS TOO OLD?
The three candidates leading in Democratic opinion polls - Biden,
Warren and Sanders, who are all in their 70s - were asked about
their health.
Sanders, 78, recently suffered a heart attack that prompted a break
from the campaign trail. He fielded the first question, about how he
would reassure voters he can handle the stress of the presidency.
"Let me invite you all to a major rally we're having in Queens, New
York," Sanders said, noting that there would be a "special guest,"
shortly before his campaign confirmed the endorsement of liberal
freshman U.S. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. "We are going
to be mounting a vigorous campaign all over this country, that is
how I think I can reassure the American people."
Biden, 76, said he knows he could handle the demands of the
presidency because he knows what the job entails. "One of the
reasons I'm running is because of my age and my experience," Biden
said, promising to release his health records before the first
nominating contest in early February.
Warren, 70, was asked to respond to a statistic that 40% of
Democratic primary voters say they think a candidate under 70 is
more likely to defeat 73-year-old Trump.
"I will outwork, out-organize, and outlast anyone, and that includes
Donald Trump, (Vice President) Mike Pence, or whoever the
Republicans get stuck with," Warren said.
FRONT-RUNNERS TUSSLE
When asked to describe their vision for the presidency, Warren cited
her creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) as
an example of how she would fight for the people against big
business. It revived a decades-long argument between the two
front-runners related to consumer bankruptcies.
"I had an idea for a consumer agency that would keep giant banks
from cheating people and all of the Washington insiders and
strategic geniuses said: 'Don't even try,'" said Warren, whom former
President Barack Obama tapped to create the CFPB after the 2008
financial crisis.
Biden interjected: "I went on the floor and got you votes, I got
votes for that bill, I convinced people to vote for it, so let's get
those things straight, too."
Warren paused.
"I am deeply grateful to President Obama, who fought so hard to make
sure that agency was passed into law," she said to audience
laughter. "And I am deeply grateful to every single person who
fought for it."
Before the CFPB's creation, Warren had lobbied against legislation
that she said unfairly targeted families buried in debt. Biden, then
a U.S. senator from Delaware, where many major credit-card lenders
have their headquarters, supported the bill.
(Reporting by Trevor Hunnicutt, Jarrett Renshaw, Sharon Bernstein,
Amanda Becker, Doina Chiacu and Heather Timmons; Editing by Sonya
Hepinstall and Peter Cooney)
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