Exclusive: 'I'm happy he did it' - in Beirut, wife of fugitive Ghosn
slams Japanese justice
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[January 15, 2020]
By Alessandra Galloni and Samia Nakhoul
BEIRUT (Reuters) - Carlos and Carole Ghosn,
the former first couple of carmaker Nissan, are united again in Beirut.
They hold hands in the street and whisper together in a mix of Arabic
and French. They kiss.
But the pair's most visceral display of unity comes when they talk about
Carlos Ghosn's former home.
"I'm done with Japan," said Carole Ghosn in an interview with her
husband in a private house in Beirut.
Two weeks ago, Carlos Ghosn made a dramatic escape from house arrest in
Japan, where he was awaiting trial on charges of under-reporting
earnings, breach of trust and misappropriation of company funds. He
denies all charges.
Shortly after Ghosn appeared in Beirut, Japanese authorities issued an
arrest warrant for Carole on suspicion of alleged perjury related to the
misappropriation charge against her husband.
"What they're accusing me of is a bit of a joke," said the 54-year-old
Lebanese-American national, who spent many years as a fashion designer
in New York and whose children live in the U.S. city.
"I testified for hours and they told me you are free to go, and now,
nine months later... this comes up. They are vindictive. This has
nothing to do with the law."
Carlos Ghosn was even more adamant. "I spent 18 years in Japan; I never
suspected this brutality, this lack of fairness, this lack of empathy."
Tokyo prosecutors have said his allegations of a conspiracy are false
and that he has failed to justify his acts.
The plan to flee to his childhood home of Lebanon developed quickly with
a small group of people, a "reasonable price" and utter secrecy, he
said.
"The first rule if you want to do something like is that no member of
your family should be aware because they become very anxious," he added.
Asked whether she would have dissuaded him to escape, Carole Ghosn
blurted: "Yes!"
But then she paused, looked at her husband and added: "No. I mean,
actually, let me rephrase. If you told me this at the beginning, I would
have said No, of course not. You're going to fight this and prove your
innocence... But then, with time, we saw how the prosecutors were
behaving... I said 'Oh my God my husband is never going to get a fair
trial' and I was desperate."
"I'm happy he did it," she said.
Japan's justice minister has said Ghosn's escape from his trial could
constitute a crime.
HUMAN RIGHTS FOCUS
Beirut has no extradition agreement with Japan and Ghosn's legal team is
pushing for him to stand trial in Lebanon. But Ghosn said last week that
he does not want his own case to hurt relations between Lebanon, which
is currently in the throes of an economic crisis, and the world's
third-largest economy.
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Former Nissan chairman Carlos Ghosn and his wife Carole Ghosn pose
for a picture after an exclusive interview with Reuters in Beirut,
Lebanon January 14, 2020. REUTERS/Mohamed Azakir
The Ghosns have been attempting to focus the narrative on the
question of human rights — and what they say is the inhumane way
that Ghosn was treated after his arrest in late 2018. Ghosn says he
was held in isolation, given only limited access to his lawyers and
– his biggest complaint – prevented from speaking to his wife. The
couple had been married for two years — second unions for both —
when Ghosn was first arrested. He says they spoke for only two hours
in nine months.
"They wanted to break me, they wanted to put me into a situation
where life was miserable," he said.
Japan's Justice Minister Masako Mori has called the accusations
"absolutely intolerable."
During his arrest, Carole Ghosn said she sought the support of Human
Rights Watch, hired a high-profile human rights lawyer in Paris, and
appealed directly to President Donald Trump and French President
Emmanuel Macron to help her husband's case.
Carlos Ghosn said he was determined up until late last year to stay
in Japan and see through the investigation and his trial. On
Christmas Day, he said, he realized the legal cases could last five
years and decided to bolt.
The Ghosns said their life in Beirut consists of working with their
legal team and spending evenings with friends.
Both have their regrets - including, for Carole Ghosn, throwing a
lavish party at the 17th century palace in Versailles, France, for
her 50th birthday. The party has become part of a separate
investigation in France to establish if the venue was obtained
improperly by the Ghosns (which both deny), and has also prompted
criticism of the couple as leading an extravagant lifestyle.
"It was a beautiful event, and now it has turned out to be a big
disaster," said Carole Ghosn. "Now, I look at it, it's unfortunate -
I wish we never did it."
Both said they would be happy to stay in Lebanon, for the rest of
their lives, if that was necessary.
As for returning to Japan?
"Never," said Carole.
(Reporting by Alessandra Galloni and Samia Nakhoul, additional
reporting by Tom Perry and Eric Knecht, Editing by Rosalba O'Brien)
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