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		‘Next phase’ of criminal probe into Trump finances: Finding witnesses
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		 [March 22, 2021] 
		By Jason Szep and Peter Eisler 
 (Reuters) - Investigators in a criminal 
		probe of former U.S. President Donald Trump’s real-estate business are 
		combing through millions of pages of newly acquired records with an eye 
		toward identifying witnesses who can bring the documents to life for a 
		jury, say two people familiar with the probe.
 
 Some of the case’s key figures are well-known. Trump’s former attorney 
		and fixer, Michael Cohen, met on Friday with prosecutors in the 
		Manhattan District Attorney’s office, his eighth such interview. And 
		District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr’s team is interested in getting 
		testimony from the Trump Organization’s long time chief financial 
		officer, Allen Weisselberg, according to the two people familiar with 
		the investigation.
 
 But a growing universe of people, institutions and agencies are being 
		scrutinized by Vance’s prosecutors as potential witnesses in the case.
 
 Prosecutors are looking to gather information and testimony from 
		bankers, bookkeepers, real-estate consultants and others close to the 
		Trump Organization who could provide insights on its dealings, according 
		to interviews and court filings. The process of identifying all 
		witnesses and targets could take months.
 
		
		 
		
 “The next phase is identifying targets” for subpoenas and testimony, 
		said one person familiar with the case.
 
 Vance has not accused Trump or his associates of wrongdoing but is 
		examining, among other things, whether property values were manipulated 
		to reduce Trump’s taxes or obtain other economic benefits. The case is 
		being heard by a grand jury that will decide whether there is evidence 
		to indict Trump or his associates.
 
 Vance’s investigators need insiders who can provide the narrative behind 
		any conflicting numbers on Trump’s financial records and testify to 
		Trump’s knowledge and intent, said former prosecutors of white-collar 
		fraud cases.
 
 “Even in the most heavily document-dependent case, you need witnesses to 
		tell the story,” said Reed Brodsky, a longtime white-collar defense 
		lawyer and former federal prosecutor.
 
 The Supreme Court forced Trump’s longtime accountants Mazars USA to 
		comply with a subpoena on March 1. Since then, investigators have poured 
		through Trump’s tax filings, business documents and internal 
		correspondence, looking for discrepancies between information provided 
		to creditors and data given to tax authorities, said two people familiar 
		with the probe.
 
 Forensic accounting specialists at FTI Consulting Inc, retained by 
		Vance, are helping analyze the tax records, said a source with knowledge 
		of the matter.
 
 Vance’s investigation is one of two known criminal probes of the former 
		president. Reuters has identified four other ongoing investigations 
		involving Trump and at least 17 active lawsuits.
 
 A lawyer for Trump declined to comment on the probes.
 
 In Vance’s investigation, Mark Pomerantz, a former federal prosecutor 
		hired last month as a special assistant, is leading the interviews with 
		some witnesses. Pomerantz, 69, prosecuted Gambino crime family boss John 
		Gotti's son in the 1990s and is known for his expertise in white-collar 
		crime.
 
 ACCOUNTANTS, APPRAISERS
 
 Several potential key figures in Vance’s investigation are current or 
		former employees of outside companies - from financial and real estate 
		consultants to legal advisors - with inside knowledge of Trump’s 
		dealings, according to court filings and the two people familiar with 
		the investigation.
 
 Some performed crucial roles for many years, such as Mazars accountant 
		Donald Bender. His signature is on the tax returns of the Donald J. 
		Trump Foundation, which was dissolved in 2018 after a probe by the New 
		York attorney general found that the organization misused charitable 
		funds. Trump was ordered to pay more than $2 million in damages.
 
 Bender has led the team managing Trump’s accounts at Mazars for more 
		than a decade, court records show. He has worked for Mazars since 1981 
		and helps steer its real-estate practice. Mazars’ predecessor companies 
		began working for Trump’s father, Fred, in the 1950s.
 
 Bender was the only Mazars’ accountant singled out by name in Vance’s 
		subpoena seeking records between 2011 and 2018, including "all 
		communications" between Donald Bender and any representative of Trump’s 
		businesses.
 
 Illustrating Bender’s importance in Trump’s empire, Weisselberg 
		testified in 2008 that, when Trump met with representatives from Forbes 
		magazine to discuss his net worth, Weisselberg made sure Bender was 
		there to help answer questions.
 
 Bender and Mazars did not respond to requests for comment.
 
 Real estate brokerage Cushman & Wakefield Plc, which worked for the 
		Trump Organization for many years, could also figure prominently in 
		Vance’s investigation, legal experts say. Chicago-based Cushman was 
		subpoenaed in a separate New York state attorney general’s probe of 
		Trump’s company, and Cushman staff have given sworn testimony.
 
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			Michael Cohen, a former lawyer to former U.S. President Donald 
			Trump, walks out of his apartment in the Manhattan borough of New 
			York City, New York, U.S., March 10, 2021. REUTERS/Carlo Allegri 
            
			 
            Both probes have shown keen interest in the values that Trump 
			attached to conservation easements – agreements to preserve open 
			space on his properties in exchange for tax breaks, court records 
			show. 
            Based on a Cushman appraisal, Trump claimed a $21.1 million value 
			for an easement at his Seven Springs estate north of New York City, 
			based on the lost profits from luxury homes he could have built. 
			Cushman was also the appraiser on a $25 million easement at a Trump 
			golf course in Los Angeles that has been scrutinized in the attorney 
			general’s investigation.
 Cushman did not respond to a request for comment.
 
 Vance’s investigators have also requested records and spoken with 
			officials from Trump’s two biggest creditors, Deutsche Bank AG and 
			Ladder Capital Corp, Reuters has previously reported. Both firms 
			declined to comment.
 
 THE INSIDERS
 
 Vance’s investigation will likely rely heavily on Trump’s closest 
			associates - people who can address the key question of what Trump 
			was thinking when he made the financial claims now under scrutiny. 
			Only a core group of Trump’s confidantes can address that 
			state-of-mind question, which is critical to proving criminal 
			intent.
 
 They include Weisselberg, 73, who began working for Trump’s father, 
			Fred, in 1973. Legal experts and a source familiar with the 
			investigation say prosecutors’ apparent goal is to convince 
			Weisselberg to cooperate. Also under scrutiny are Weisselberg’s 
			adult sons - one who has worked for the Trump Organization. The 
			other son worked for Ladder Capital, though there’s no evidence he 
			was involved in Ladder’s loans to Trump.
 
 Vance has not said whether prosecutors are talking with Allen 
			Weisselberg or his sons. None of the three Weisselbergs have been 
			charged with wrongdoing. A lawyer for Allen Weisselberg declined to 
			comment.
 
 
            
			 
			Jennifer Weisselberg - the former wife of Allen’s older son, Barry 
			Weisselberg - told Reuters that she has spoken with Vance’s office 
			five times since November. The day after the first interview, she 
			said, DA investigators visited her to retrieve tax and financial 
			records for her and her former husband.
 
 She acknowledged that prosecutors have shown interest in an 
			apartment in a Trump-owned building where she and her former husband 
			lived rent-free for seven years - an arrangement that could have 
			legal implications if it represented compensation not properly 
			reported in tax filings.
 
 Barry Weisselberg managed an ice-skating rink that Trump operates in 
			Central Park. A lawyer representing him did not respond to a request 
			for comment.
 
 Jennifer Weisselberg said she believed her father-in-law would never 
			testify against Trump voluntarily. She envisions Allen Weisselberg 
			flipping only if he or his sons are facing prosecution. But no one, 
			she said, knows more about Trump’s finances.
 
 The most visible cooperator in the criminal investigation is Cohen, 
			Trump’s personal lawyer for nearly a decade. He is serving a 
			three-year sentence after pleading guilty in 2018 to crimes 
			including tax evasion, orchestrating “hush money” payments to two 
			women who said they’d had affairs with Trump, and lying to Congress 
			about negotiations over a proposed Trump development in Moscow that 
			never materialized. Cohen is in home confinement due to the 
			coronavirus pandemic.
 
 Trump has attacked Cohen’s credibility by highlighting how he lied 
			under oath. Legal experts say Trump’s attorneys could make similar 
			arguments if Cohen becomes a key witness. At his sentencing, Cohen 
			took "full responsibility" for his actions but claimed he made the 
			payments at Trump’s direction.
 
 Cohen told Reuters he has evidence to overcome any questions about 
			his credibility. “Unfortunately for Trump, I have backed up each and 
			every question posed by the district attorney’s office,” Cohen said, 
			by providing “documentary evidence.”
 
 If prosecutors can corroborate Cohen’s testimony, his story could be 
			“very powerful before a jury,” said Brodsky, a partner at Gibson, 
			Dunn & Crutcher. “The government loves people who plead guilty to 
			crimes, take the stand and say … ‘I participated in a crime with 
			that person sitting right there at the defense table, Donald J. 
			Trump.’”
 
 (Reporting by Jason Szep and Peter Eisler; editing by Brian Thevenot)
 
 
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