Trump attorney Jesse Binnall told the U.S. Court of Appeals for
the District of Columbia Circuit that Trump is immune from the
lawsuits because he was acting as president in his impassioned
remarks to supporters, using the "bully pulpit" to comment on
outside events.
Democrats in Congress and police officers filed several lawsuits
over the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack that said Trump conspired
with others to disrupt certification of the 2020 election
results.
Trump told his crowd of supporters that he would never concede
the 2020 election and urged them to "fight like hell" before
they marched to the Capitol, where lawmakers were preparing to
certify Democrat Joe Biden's victory.
A 1982 U.S. Supreme Court ruling held that presidents cannot be
sued over their official acts. But U.S. District Judge Amit
Mehta in Washington, D.C. ruled in February that Trump's fiery
speech ahead of the riots did not fall within the
then-president's scope of duties, allowing the lawsuits to move
forward.
The three-judge panel pressed attorneys on both sides on the
scope of presidential immunity and what options are available to
hold people accountable for disrupting Congress.
Under questioning from Judge Gregory Katsas, Binnall said Trump
could "theoretically" face criminal liability over the riots.
But he reiterated that civil lawsuits should be barred because
they could make other presidents vulnerable to future litigation
over their speech.
Joseph Sellers, arguing in defense of the lawsuits, said Trump
does not have immunity because his actions disrupted the work of
another branch of government.
Asked if Trump's entreaties to supporters on Jan. 6 amounted to
protected free speech, Sellers said the president's remarks
should be considered as part of a series of actions aimed at
preventing Congress from certifying the 2020 election.
The arguments come as Trump, who last month announced he is
running for president again in 2024, faces federal criminal
probes tied to Jan. 6 and his retention of White House records,
as well as a congressional investigation over the Capitol
violence.
Several members of Congress who are suing Trump attended
Wednesday's arguments, including Democrats Eric Swalwell and
Pramila Jayapal.
(Reporting by Jacqueline Thomsen in Washington; Editing by David
Bario, Noeleen Walder and Bill Berkrot)
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