Ex-Madigan aide was warned several times that lying to grand jury would
result in perjury charges
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[August 18, 2023]
By HANNAH MEISEL
Capitol News Illinois
hmeisel@capitolnewsillinois.com
CHICAGO – Nearly six months after former Illinois House Speaker Michael
Madigan was forced to fire his longtime chief of staff, those in the
speaker’s inner circle were once again realizing just how much they’d
come to rely on Tim Mapes.
It was late November 2018, and Democrats had just won big in the general
election, riding a “Blue Wave” of opposition to then-President Donald
Trump. In the Illinois House, the party regained its supermajority
status it had lost two years prior – and then some.
Tasked with managing a record 74 members in his caucus, Madigan had some
decisions to make about how to structure his leadership team and where
to place incoming members – some of whom had campaigned on being
independent from the polarizing speaker.
Longtime Madigan confidant Mike McClain, who was often in on these sorts
of strategic choices, turned to the only person who knew the caucus
possibly better than Madigan: Mapes.
“You did day in and day out stuff,” McClain told Mapes as he broached
the question of whether Mapes would be comfortable going through the
list he’d drafted of member assignments to House committees.
Mapes agreed to take a look.
“Are you comfortable with me telling him I talked to you?” McClain
asked, referring to Madigan in a phone conversation he did not know was
being recorded by federal agents.
Mapes again said he was fine with that, as long as the speaker was too.
“That’s what it comes down to: I don’t want to get in crosshairs with
him and some of his staff,” Mapes said. “I hear the view that some of
his staff doesn’t like me and they’re on path to shut me out.”
The November 2018 call is one of many that have been played so far in
Mapes’ obstruction of justice and perjury trial, now in its second week.
Mapes is accused of lying to a grand jury that was investigating Madigan
and his inner circle. Prosecutors claim Mapes said he didn’t remember or
couldn’t recall whether McClain was working as an “agent” of the speaker
out of loyalty to both men when he testified to the grand jury in 2021.
Mapes’ guess that some of Madigan’s staff didn’t like him was borne out
in an independent review of the speaker’s office after he’d been fired.
A 2019 report cited bullying as a pervasive issue and found “Mr. Mapes
had a reputation for denigrating workers and threatening their jobs.”
Mapes, who’d served 25 years as the speaker’s top aide, had also spent
two decades as executive director of the Democratic Party of Illinois
under Madigan, and in the last seven years of his Statehouse career,
served as clerk of the Illinois House.
But all three of those roles came to an abrupt end in June 2018 when a
staff member in the House clerk’s office publicly accused Mapes of
sexual harassment and bullying. It was the third person in Madigan’s
orbit who’d been accused of harassment in recent months and the height
of the #MeToo movement, and the speaker was feeling pressure.
In their opening statements, prosecutors said they’d show how McClain
was filling in the gaps of all the roles Mapes used to play in the
speaker’s orbit. Just two weeks after Mapes’ resignation, McClain had
asked Mapes for a campaign-related spreadsheet “that goes on for 20
yards,” he joked.
Mapes said he kept it on a thumb drive that, because it contained
sensitive information like social security and credit card numbers,
never left his side – he’d even taken it to Australia and Europe.
“That’s pretty cute,” McClain said.
In that same call, the pair expressed worry for Madigan’s stress levels,
and Mapes remarked that the last time he saw the speaker, the already
slight Democrat had lost a noticeable amount of weight.
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Tim Mapes, the former chief of staff for
longtime Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan, exits the Dirksen
Federal Courthouse in Chicago on Monday. He is standing trial for
perjury and obstruction of justice. (Capitol News Illinois photo by
Andrew Adams)
The level of detail shared between the two was contradictory to the
entire two-plus hours of Mapes’ grand jury testimony played at trial
Tuesday and Wednesday.
Mapes was indicted for his answers to seven questions where he denied
knowing or being able to recall whether McClain was working on Madigan’s
behalf.
“Did Mr. McClain, after he retired, kind of give you any insight into
what his interactions with Mr. Madigan were that you weren’t privy to
personally?” Assistant U.S. Attorney Amarjeet Bhachu asked Mapes during
his grand jury testimony.
“No, that wouldn’t — that wouldn’t happen,” Mapes said.
In front of the grand jury, Mapes seemed to recall minor details of some
episodes, including the minutiae of two occasions when he recommended
former speaker’s office employees for jobs at electric utility
Commonwealth Edison.
But Mapes’ was fuzzy around the specifics of McClain’s informal role as
Madigan’s trusted advisor.
One of the questions Mapes wasn’t indicted for also seemed to contradict
what jurors heard on the wiretaps.
Asked if McClain ever talked to Mapes about “things (McClain) was doing
for Madigan,” Mapes demurred.
“I would’ve had friendly conversations with Mr. McClain after he
retired, but not related to a dialogue about Mike Madigan,” Mapes said.
Bhachu warned Mapes three separate times during his grand jury testimony
that the immunity order he was under meant that he could be charged with
perjury if he wasn’t truthful.
“When you say you fail to recall something or you say you don't remember
something – if (the grand jury) conclude(s) that you're lying, you
understand you’ll be prosecuted?” Bhachu asked the third time. “You get
that, right?”
“Yes, sir,” Mapes replied.
In a bizarre contradiction, Mapes was asked about a casual coffee
meeting he had with an FBI agent and intelligence analyst in Springfield
in January 2019. The analyst testified earlier in the trial that it was
purely an informational meeting, and that she’d gotten Mapes’ number
from a mutual family friend.
But Mapes told the grand jury that the two “were reaching out to be
wired up against members of the General Assembly.”
Mapes prepared a memo after that coffee meeting, which he’d produced
after he was subpoenaed in July 2020. Asked why he’d written it, Mapes
responded, “I was instructed many years ago by outside counsel that if
you have a meeting like this you should prepare a memo.”
Mapes then asked Bhachu if he could review the memo during the grand
jury’s lunch break.
The memo, read in its entirety on Wednesday, contained no such line
about the agent asking Mapes to wear a wire.
After the break, Bhachu asked Mapes if there was anything he’d like to
change from his testimony that morning, but Mapes declined.
The memo concluded with Mapes’ answer to the FBI’s question about why he
picked that particular café on Springfield’s west side.
“My response, convenient, easy parking,” Mapes wrote. “It is just a
coffee place, but I don’t drink coffee.”
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