Trump's defamation hurt my status, writer E. Jean Carroll testifies
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[January 19, 2024]
By Jonathan Stempel and Luc Cohen
NEW YORK (Reuters) - E. Jean Carroll, the writer seeking millions of
dollars from Donald Trump for defamation, on Thursday forcefully
rejected suggestions that her reputation has been enhanced in the years
since she publicly accused the former U.S. president of rape.
Carroll, 80, acknowledged at her civil damages trial that she has
received more attention from media outlets and celebrities since
publicizing her rape claim in June 2019 - but said she has also been
widely disparaged.
"My status is lowered," Carroll said under cross-examination by Trump's
lawyer Alina Habba in federal court in Manhattan. "I am partaking in
this trial to bring my old reputation and status back."
Carroll is seeking at least $10 million over two statements that Trump
made as president in June 2019, after the rape claim was first
publicized in a memoir excerpt in New York magazine.
Trump, 77, has denied having assaulted Carroll in the mid-1990s in a
Bergdorf Goodman department store dressing room in Manhattan. He said
she made up the claim to promote her book.
Carroll won a $5 million verdict last May when another jury found that
Trump had sexually abused her and in October 2022 defamed her by denying
that anything happened.
U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan has already ruled that Trump sexually
abused Carroll by forcing his fingers into her vagina, and that he
defamed her in June 2019.
The nine-person jury need decide only how much Trump should pay Carroll.
Kaplan has admonished Trump's lawyers dozens of times since the trial
began on Tuesday for raising issues that he'd already decided or
considered irrelevant.
A damages expert told jurors on Carroll's behalf it would cost $7.3
million to $12.1 million to repair damage that Trump's denials did to
Carroll's reputation.
Trump, a Republican, has used the trial and his other legal travails to
rally supporters and raise funds for his 2024 White House run, calling
the cases part of a political plot.
He has separately pleaded not guilty in four state and federal criminal
cases, including two alleging that he broke the law in trying to
overturn his 2020 election loss to Democrat Joe Biden.
MORE WELL-KNOWN, AND MORE HATED
In Thursday's proceedings, Habba told jurors that Carroll had been
attacked on Twitter, now known as X, for five hours before the White
House denied her claim, including that Carroll was a "disgrace" and was
promoting "fake news" to ruin Trump's 2020 reelection bid.
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E. Jean Carroll enters Manhattan Federal Court, in the second civil
trial after she accused former U.S. President Donald Trump of raping
her decades ago, in New York City, U.S., January 18, 2024.
REUTERS/Shannon Stapleton
Habba was trying to show that Trump's denials did not shatter
Carroll's reputation, as the writer had testified on Wednesday, and
that Carroll has leveraged her claim into newfound fame as an
advocate for women.
Carroll agreed that the $5 million verdict drew praise from
celebrities including Jamie Lee Curtis, John Cusack, Bette Midler,
Alyssa Milano, Rob Reiner and Mira Sorvino, but said she has also
drawn a "wave of slime" from detractors.
"I am more well-known, and I am hated by a lot more people," Carroll
said.
The damages expert, Ashlee Humphreys, a Northwestern University
professor specializing in sociology and consumer behavior, estimated
that at least 21.3 million to 24.8 million people saw Trump's June
2019 statements in major media or on Twitter and likely believed
them.
She said that caused "severe" damage to Carroll's standing as "a
truth teller, a sassy advice columnist," and made many people view
her as a liar with a political agenda. Carroll is a Democrat.
One of Trump's lawyers highlighted on cross-examination that
Humphreys' damages model said the harm to Carroll might be as little
as $2.1 million. Humphreys viewed that amount as too low.
Trump attended the first two trial days, but was in Florida on
Thursday for his mother-in-law's funeral.
In overnight posts on his Truth Social website, Trump attacked some
of Carroll's earlier testimony, and said if the judge "does the
right and PATRIOTIC thing, he will immediately dismiss the current
Election Interfering Witch Hunt Trial."
The trial resumes on Monday, and Trump could testify next week.
Kaplan warned him on Wednesday that he might be ejected from the
trial if he kept making comments loud enough for the jury to hear.
Carroll's lawyers said they could hear Trump calling their client's
case a "witch hunt" and a "con job."
(Reporting by Jonathan Stempel and Luc Cohen in New York; Additional
reporting by Susan Heavey in Washington; Editing by Noeleen Walder,
Jonathan Oatis and Daniel Wallis)
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