Trump and Musk say they like working together and will keep at it. Will
it last?
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[February 20, 2025]
By WILL WEISSERT
WASHINGTON (AP) — It's been a burning political question for weeks: How
long will President Donald Trump — who doesn’t like sharing the
spotlight — be able to do just that with Elon Musk, a billionaire also
overly fond of attention?
In a joint Fox News Channel interview that aired Tuesday, both insisted
they like each other a lot and would stick with their arrangement
despite what Trump said were attempts by the media to “drive us apart.”
At times, Trump sat back as Fox News Channel's Sean Hannity heaped
praise on Musk in an attempt to counteract a Democratic narrative that
he's a callous and unelected force out to destroy the government and
upend civil society through sweeping cuts being imposed by the
Department of Government Efficiency.
There were also moments when Trump and Musk were all but finishing each
other's sentences, as if they were part of a buddy comedy and not the
president and his most powerful aide.
Here's a look at how the friendship formed, what it means for them both
and why Trump's history suggests it may not last:
They weren't always friends
Trump told Hannity that he wasn't really acquainted with Musk until
recently, saying, “I knew him a little bit through the White House
originally" but didn’t know him before that.
Musk was born in Pretoria, South Africa, and became a U.S. citizen in
2002. He's the world’s richest man, with a net worth exceeding $400
billion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index. His vast
business holdings include X, Tesla and SpaceX, as well as the satellite
internet service provider Starlink.

Musk said he voted for Democrat Joe Biden in 2020 and Democrat Hillary
Clinton in 2016. Musk has recently said that Tesla was being unfairly
targeted by regulations in its original home state of California. Musk
and the company's headquarters moved to Austin, Texas, in 2021, and he
increasingly soured on Biden with the then-president's embrace of unions
that clashed frequently with Tesla.
In the past, Musk butted heads with Trump over climate change. They
feuded as recently as July 2022 — with Trump calling Musk a “bulls—-
artist." He also suggested then that Musk came to the White House during
his first term seeking federal subsidies for “electric cars that don’t
drive long enough, driverless cars that crash, or rocketships to
nowhere.”
"I could have said, ‘drop to your knees and beg,’ and he would have done
it,” Trump previously said on his social media site.
Musk originally backed Ron DeSantis in last year’s Republican
presidential primary, even helping the Florida governor launch his White
House bid in a glitch-marred presentation on X. But Musk met with Trump
at his Florida residence last March and endorsed the then-candidate in
July, after the first assassination attempt.
“I was going to do it anyway, but that was a precipitating event,” Musk
told Hannity.
Musk appeared at his first Trump rally in early October, and his super
PAC spent around $200 million to boost the Republican's campaign. X also
amplified messaging — and often disinformation — promoted by Trump and
his “Make America Great Again” movement.
The pair spent election night at the president's Mar-a-Lago club. Less
than a week after securing victory, Trump announced that Musk would lead
DOGE, the new push to shrink government, alongside former GOP
presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, who left the commission by
Inauguration Day.
Their relationship is mutually beneficial
The affection continued Wednesday, when Trump traveled to a Saudi-backed
investment meeting in Miami, where Musk was in attendance. Trump asked
the billionaire to stand up so the crowd could applaud him.
“He’s doing a great job,” Trump said. The president also suggested that
the ratings for Tuesday night's interview were high, telling the crowd:
“You coulda seen him last night. He’s a very committed person, a very
serious person.”
“He’s a seriously high IQ individual," Trump added. "He’s got his faults
also, I’ll tell you that. But not too many of them.”
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President Donald Trump listens as Elon Musk speaks in the Oval
Office at the White House, Tuesday, Feb. 11, 2025, in Washington.
(Photo/Alex Brandon)

Trump has empowered Musk to help him keep a campaign promise to “
shatter the deep state ” by firing scores of federal workers,
shrinking or shuttering agencies and slashing the size of
government.
“There’s a vast federal bureaucracy that is implacably opposed to
the the president,” Musk said during the Hannity interview. He
added, "What we’re seeing here is the sort of the thrashing of the
bureaucracy as we try to restore democracy and the will of the
people.”
Tesla and SpaceX have benefited from lucrative government contracts
from the Defense Department, NASA and other federal entities, as
well as plenty of tax breaks and subsidies over the years. The Trump
administration could also take a lot of regulatory heat off Musk,
including dismissing crash investigations into Tesla’s partially
automated vehicles and a Justice Department criminal probe examining
whether Musk and Tesla have overstated their cars’ self-driving
capabilities.
Musk nonetheless insisted to Hannity, “I haven’t asked the president
for anything, ever." Trump said the billionaire “won't be involved”
in areas where his government efforts and business concerns overlap
— though that seems dubious given that Musk's team has already begun
scrutinizing federal contracts in areas that would seem to present
conflict-of-interest concerns.
Trump's friendships often don't last
Trump and Musk say they won't turn on each other. But those closest
to Trump often end up as his fiercest critics.
His former vice president, Mike Pence, said Trump endangered his
family in the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the Capitol and attempted to
bully him into violating the Constitution. His former attorney
general, Bill Barr, refuted Trump's falsehoods about widespread
fraud in the 2020 election and has since said he “shouldn't be
anywhere near the Oval Office."
Michael Cohen, Trump’s longtime lawyer who testified against him in
a hush money case, told a House committee in 2019, “People that
follow Mr. Trump, as I did blindly, are going to suffer the same
consequences that I’m suffering.”
More recently, Trump shrugged off potential security risks while
ending Secret Service protection for former top officials in his
first administration, including former Secretary of State Mike
Pompeo and former White House chief of staff John Kelly.
Trump also has shown repeatedly that he doesn't like being
overshadowed, even hinting at such where Musk is concerned. Asked
recently about Musk appearing on the cover of Time from behind the
Resolute Desk in the Oval Office, Trump quipped, “Is Time Magazine
still in business?”

But Trump has also been fiercely loyal to those he perceives as
having stood by him.
Former White House adviser Peter Navarro, who served time in prison
related to the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, is back helping
dictate Trump trade policy. Trump's valet, Walt Nauta, is working
anew at the White House after once being a codefendant with Trump in
the classified documents case. Trump has also said he'd offered
“about 10 jobs” to his former national security adviser, Mike Flynn,
whom he pardoned after Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI.
Four weeks in, they seem genuinely fond of each other
Throughout the interview, Hannity was friendly and his questions
were mostly fawning. But what came through most clearly was how
complimentary Trump and Musk were of each other — even amid
skepticism about how their friendship enduring.
“He’s an amazing person,” Trump said of Musk.
“I love the president, I just want to be clear about that,” Musk
offered of Trump.
“I feel like I’m interviewing two brothers here,” Hannity finally
said.
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