Madigan leaves witness stand expressing regret for ‘any time spent with
Danny Solis’
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[January 16, 2025]
By Hannah Meisel
CHICAGO – After Michael Madigan spent several hours facing blistering
cross-examination in his federal corruption trial, the former Illinois
House speaker on Tuesday made a rare candid remark about the yearslong
investigation that landed him on the witness stand in a Chicago
courtroom.
“We all have regrets in life,” Madigan said. “And one of my regrets is
that I ever had any time spent with Danny Solis.”
Longtime Chicago Ald. Danny Solis’ cover was blown nearly six years ago,
when the Chicago Sun-Times revealed him to have been cooperating with
the government since 2016. Less than a week later, a second bombshell
dropped: Another FBI mole had secretly recorded Madigan at his law
office in 2014 during a meeting with a potential client that was
arranged by the alderman. Solis had been chair of the Chicago City
Council’s zoning committee, while Madigan had for decades been a partner
of a law firm that specialized in property tax appeals.
The full extent of Solis’ cooperation against Madigan – including his
own secret recordings of their meetings – wouldn’t become known until
much later. But the former speaker now faces 23 counts of bribery and
other public corruption charges.
In the 1 ½ years leading up to the revelation about Solis’ double life,
Madigan and the alderman had gotten closer after decades of a more
casual political alliance. In June 2017, the speaker made an
out-of-the-blue phone call to Solis asking for an introduction to the
developer behind a proposed apartment complex in Chicago’s booming West
Loop, part of Solis’ 23rd Ward.
Unbeknownst to the speaker, Solis had been cooperating with the feds for
the past year and the call reignited the FBI’s interest in Madigan,
which had been mostly dormant since 2014, according to prior testimony
from an agent in charge of the investigation.
‘Just leave it in my hands’
The gradual uptick in Solis’ phone calls and meetings with Madigan –
including his solicitation of the speaker’s assistance with an
ultimately doomed land deal – was orchestrated by the FBI. So too was
the alderman’s eventual request that Madigan help him get appointed to a
lucrative state board position.
While Madigan projected an air of relaxed confidence under questioning
from his own attorney last week, the former speaker’s answers didn’t
come as easily during cross-examination Monday and Tuesday, including on
questions about his dealings with Solis.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Amarjeet Bhachu grilled Madigan about why he’d
agreed to forward Solis’ name to newly elected Gov. JB Pritzker in the
fall of 2018 for consideration to a high-paying state board. Bhachu
pointed out that the speaker asked Solis to send him a resume even after
the alderman repeatedly insinuated that he viewed the favor as an
exchange for introducing Madigan to more potential law clients.
“And you say, ‘just leave it in my hands,’” Bhachu asked the former
speaker of an exchange during his meeting with Solis in August 2018
where the pair went over a list of state boards and commissions.
“I would put it in my file and potentially give it to Pritzker,” Madigan
replied, softening what Solis had characterized as a promise during his
time on the witness stand in November.
Madigan never made the recommendation before the January 2019 revelation
about Solis’ FBI cooperation.
“So this is after repeated statements by Solis where he’s tying you –
doing something for somebody in your official capacity – to you getting
law firm business, right?” Bhachu asked.
“That’s what Mr. Solis was doing and I was just carrying along the
conversation,” Madigan said.
The former speaker had already claimed twice during Bhachu’s questioning
Monday and Tuesday morning that he knew what Solis was insinuating on
multiple occasions in 2017 and 2018 but opted to give non-answers to
what he deemed inappropriate questions instead of confronting him.
The one instance in which Madigan did confront Solis in 2017 was after
one of their first phone calls about the West Loop developer. In that
June 2017 call, Solis explicitly used the phrase “quid pro quo” when
trying to explain that the developer understood he’d approve the zoning
changes needed for the project contingent on becoming Madigan’s client –
a lie directed by the FBI.
Still, Bhachu pointed out, the speaker went ahead with arranging the
meeting with the developer, and in a short confrontation with Solis
before the meeting began a few weeks later, Madigan admonished him for
using the phrase “quid pro quo.”
“You shouldn’t be talking like that,” Madigan said on Solis’ secretly
recorded video. “You’re just recommending our law firm because if they
don’t get a good result on the real estate taxes, the whole project
would be in trouble. Which is not good for your ward. So you want high
quality representation.”
“Oh, I’m sorry. Yeah,” Solis said in reply.
The former speaker testified that he believed Solis had “gotten the
message” that “there was not gonna be a quid pro quo” and was chastened
by his rebuke.
‘That was a lie, wasn’t it?’
Prosecutors have long maintained Madigan was giving Solis a “false
story” as cover. Bhachu on Monday accused the former speaker of cooking
up the rationale.
“That was a lie, wasn’t it?” Bhachu asked. “You knew on that day there
was no threat to the project.”
Madigan exhaled in a sort of laugh after having explained that property
taxes are “an important element of development,” prompting Bhachu to
ask: “Is there something funny about my question, sir?”
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Former Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan leaves the Dirksen
Federal Courthouse in Chicago after a Jan. 3, 2024, hearing that
delayed his trial. A year later, Madigan’s trial is wrapping up
after the former speaker took the stand in his own defense. (Capitol
News Illinois photo by Andrew Adams)
Returning to the subject on Tuesday morning, Madigan insisted this week
that property taxes were always a legitimate concern for a large
development. In fact, the former speaker’s firm had represented the
property’s previous occupant when it was an addiction treatment center
whose not-for-profit status exempted it from property taxes. Because the
project was a tear-down development in an up-and-coming area of the
city, the eventual cost of those taxes was less certain than comparable
properties.
When Madigan attorney Dan Collins got another chance to question his
client after Bhachu’s initial cross-examination, he also asked the
former speaker why he’d continued interacting with Solis after the “quid
pro quo” episode in 2017.
“I felt I had been effective in delivering a message that there would be
no ‘quid pro quo,’” Madigan said. “And then and over time, I gave him
the benefit of the doubt.”
After a pause, he added that having spent any time with Solis was “one
of my regrets.”
Also on Tuesday, Madigan’s longtime law partner Vincent “Bud”
Getzendanner took the stand, his sharp memory for exact dates and other
details demonstrating why he and the former speaker were well-matched.
His dry commentary also mirrored Madigan’s as he answered Assistant U.S.
Attorney Sarah Streicker’s question about having “worked together for
decades” with a caveat that drew titters from the courtroom.
“Decades is such a harsh word, but yes,” Getzendanner replied.
Madigan and Getzendanner formed their firm of the same name in the early
1970s after having met at Chicago’s Loyola Law School the previous
decade. At first, their practice was more general, but over several
years the pair began to specialize in property tax appeals.
In his testimony, Getzendanner described the firm’s conflict of interest
policy that Madigan and previous defense witnesses described on the
witness stand. To avoid even the appearance of a conflict, Getzendanner
said, he and Madigan would have “at least one or two annual meetings”
with top lawyers from the speaker’s office to identify and protect
against any existing and potential clients who might have significant
business with the state.
Many things, according to Getzendanner, would be an automatic
disqualifier for a potential client. Getzendanner testified that when he
learned in 2015 that nursing homes got significant Medicaid money from
the state – and not just from the federal government as he’d long
thought – the firm stopped representing nursing homes.
Beyond that, there was a wholesale ban on the firm accepting business
that had anything to do with land transfers from the state. The jury has
already heard days of testimony about one such proposed land transfer
with which Solis had sought Madigan’s help.
The Illinois Department of Transportation has long owned a parcel of
land in Chicago’s Chinatown neighborhood and leased it to a nonprofit
that operates it as a parking lot. In 2017, Solis asked Madigan for
guidance on how the state might transfer the land to the city of Chicago
so the city could sell it to a developer interested in building on the
land.
Madigan recruited his friend and longtime Springfield lobbyist Mike
McClain – now his co-defendant – to help, though Madigan stayed abreast
of how the ultimately failed effort was progressing.
Nine months after Solis asked for the speaker’s help, he finally
explicitly told Madigan that the developers would “appreciate it and
sign you up” for legal work after the legislation authorizing the land
transfer passed the General Assembly.
In the wiretapped call, Madigan replied, “Okay, alright, very good.” But
just like the prior interactions with Solis, the former speaker
testified last week that he was simply trying to move past that part of
the conversation because he never intended to meet the developers or
seek their business.
Madigan also didn’t vote on land transfer bills, he and other witnesses
testified, and the Chinatown transfer was never included in the annual
land transfer legislation that did eventually pass in 2018.
Getzendanner on Tuesday said it was a “nonstarter” when prospective
clients were dealing with land transferred from the state.
But under questioning from Streicker, Getzendanner acknowledged the firm
did do business with some of the other developers Solis brought to
Madigan. Streicker also pointed out that in an interview with the FBI in
February 2021, Getzendanner claimed he only remembered one of the five
meetings Solis had arranged to meet potential clients at the law firm.
After reading the FBI report about the meeting on the stand,
Getzendanner said he didn’t remember saying that to the FBI.
Getzendanner also agreed with Streicker’s characterization that the
former speaker “focused on client acquisition and business development”
for the firm made possible by his wide network built over a career in
public life.
“Fair to say Mr. Madigan was the rainmaker for the firm?” Streicker
asked.
“Yes,” Getzendanner answered.
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