At 'Make America Healthy Again' summit, Vance praises RFK Jr. for
defying convention
[November 13, 2025]
By ALI SWENSON
WASHINGTON (AP) — Vice President JD Vance on Wednesday praised Health
Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s willingness to question established
science and embrace nontraditional voices in the health care space,
saying that often throughout history, “all the experts were wrong.”
In remarks in a fireside chat between the two men at a “Make America
Healthy Again” summit in the nation's capital, Vance also propped up
Kennedy’s MAHA movement, saying it has been “a critical part of our
success in Washington.”
Vance’s words show how Kennedy, whose wrecking-ball approach to public
health agencies and longstanding vaccine skepticism have made him a
polarizing figure among the public and in Congress, has been embraced by
the White House as a needed force for change.
“Of all the specific initiatives that you guys have worked on
effectively, the most important thing is that your team is willing to
ask questions that people in government haven't been asking in a long
time,” Vance told Kennedy onstage.
The Vance-Kennedy event was livestreamed, but the summit was otherwise
off limits to the press.
Even as President Donald Trump and Kennedy have disagreed on issues from
COVID-19 vaccines to abortion, the White House this year has largely
left Kennedy alone as he has made sweeping changes to the agencies he
leads, including laying off thousands of workers, firing science
advisers and remaking vaccine guidelines.
The Trump administration has touted Kennedy's efforts to phase out
artificial dyes in foods, wage war on ultra-processed foods and update
the national dietary guidelines. As health secretary, he has said he
wants to find the root causes of chronic disease and help Americans
reduce their exposure to toxins.

Critics, including some of the country's leading medical associations,
say that Kennedy’s disregard for established science is fomenting public
distrust in mainstream medicine and that his views, once considered
fringe, are being amplified from his perch as health secretary.
“This closed-door convention is nothing more than an ego-stroking
symposium of ‘wellbeing influencers’ and ‘MAHA moms’ whose rejection of
scientific expertise puts our public health at risk,” said Erik Polyak,
executive director of the progressive political action committee 314
Action, which works to elect Democratic scientists to office.
Kennedy and his allies dispute that their agenda is anti-science.
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Vice President JD Vance, right, is joined by Health and Human
Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., at the inaugural Make
America Healthy Again summit at the Waldorf Astoria, Wednesday, Nov.
12, 2025, in Washington. (AP Photo/Rod Lamkey, Jr.)
 Vance nodded to the fact that many
in Kennedy’s network don’t come from conventional medical circles,
and some have more experience in business than in health. In fact,
many of the health secretary's close allies and new hires have
outright rejected medical consensus on topics including vaccines and
how to heal chronic disease.
“We’ve got to be comfortable challenging some of these old
orthodoxies, and part of that is welcoming people that are a little
unusual,” Vance said.
Vance noted Kennedy's interest in disrupting bureaucracy comes under
a president with a similar mentality.
“That is a good summary of Donald J. Trump is that he takes a
bulldozer to Overton windows every single day,” Vance said. The
Overton window refers to “the range of policies considered
acceptable by the majority of a population,” according to
Britannica.com.
The MAHA event at a Washington hotel came on the heels of a
different meeting in Austin, Texas, that welcomed several of the
same attendees — the annual conference of Children's Health Defense,
the anti-vaccine group Kennedy used to lead.
That conference over the weekend, which featured Kennedy's wife,
Cheryl Hines, as a headline speaker, was more squarely focused on
immunizations, with sessions such as “The Enduring Nightmare of
COVID mRNA Technology” and “Understanding the Enormity of Vaccine
Injury.”
Wednesday's packed house of Trump administration officials, biotech
entrepreneurs, MAHA influencers and others included sessions about
topics such as how artificial intelligence is being used in health
care, reversing aging, making food healthier and more.
MAHA Action, the Kennedy-supporting group hosting the event, said
Trump's embrace of the movement marks "a decisive turning point in
U.S. health policy.”
“Today is an important milestone,” Tony Lyons, president of MAHA
Action, said in the release. “It's the culmination of a movement
that was 40 years in the making.”
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