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Marital stalemate on a remodeling project?
Ask Popeye and Olive Oyl their advice

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[September 30, 2021]  Face it, there are no perfect houses. But you want to make a house your home and there are many ways to do it. But when it comes to major remodeling, realtors will tell you, couples have a list of changes before they even sign on the dotted line.

Remodeling is no easy chore, and it isn't cheap. But getting your ideas and your mate's in a plan with a budget offers the best possible outcome.

Dream, dream big. Then realistically match your top goals to your time, resources, skills and budget, and be prepared to negotiate out or down on the less important elements; you might substitute ceramic or a newer material tile for marble; choose an all-in-one tub surround or shower in place of costlier materials. Decide what is most important to you and your family in the room you are remodeling.

Don't hurry. Gather your ideas, cut magazine pictures, use favorite colors from artwork or photos, and ask others what they like as a guide; decide what elements of a remodel are a priority - windows, hardware, heating and cooling, use of space, flooring, lighting, ceilings, walls, electrical, and fixtures; and use a coordinated theme of modern or some classic style.

Start a budget, get specific pricing of materials and create a rough estimate of costs.

When you know what you want to achieve consult a professional who will guide you on where you should spend up or scale down, can recognize conflicts with your design desires, and will allow you to do the work you might want to do yourself.

This is the real-life story of a Popeye and Olive Oyl (names changed to protect the innocent and for analogy purposes, somebody needs to be the hero in every renovation,) both of whom are quite handy and experienced in basic home renovations. When the couple made their third home purchase, it was the home of their dreams. They were young yet, spry with plenty of ideas and energy, and had skills gained in the prior home ownerships.

The over 100-year-old farm house offered the country solitude they sought. It had good bones and held a lifetime worth of opportunities to renovate room by room, which they began quickly and completed in a decade; except for one, two if you count the other like room upstairs they planned to do in the same period.

The problem room that created a snarl was their downstairs bathroom.

This is the story of Popeye and Olive Oyl:

It took years of analyzing the problems: It's an old farmhouse, with radiators, a drafty ceiling vent, year-round access for the insects that like to come in for the winter. The stand-alone shower didn't give much room in the event we needed some handicap accessibility, which ironically, we did as soon as we finished. The window and radiator took up space on the outside wall. The plumbing layout for the shower, sink, toilet and radiators needed to be adjusted or completely moved. Not to mention the ugly plastic tile that needed to go. Ugh!

I started writing down all the little details, and making some phone calls to the plumbing and heating company that we do business with. I asked for recommendations on a suitable contractor, and they did not disappoint. Take note here: any good contractor is busy, Really busy. That's a good thing, so patience is needed. If you find somebody that can start next week, there's a pretty good reason why they don't have a waiting list.

Plan ahead. Way ahead. Have your thoughts written down, do some research on what you like as far as design and materials, and get some pictures ready. Anticipate a sizable budget if you want it done right. The bathroom is the most permanent room in your home as far as fixtures go, so I recommend doing it right the first time. Keep all the fixtures classic. Splurge on the bath towels and shower curtain if you want something trendy.

Once I had a tentative game plan, we discussed who would do what. Popeye wanted to save money, he was more of the do-it-yourself thinker. Since this is our main bathroom, we work full time, and are getting too [#!] old to be gutting and remodeling, I just wanted it done. I was willing to pay for this job just to get it done, done right, and sooner rather than later."

The upstairs bathroom was completed last spring with Popeye and Olive doing nearly all the work. It took just over a month. That renovation didn't involve moving any plumbing, and they hired the floor done by a contractor.

Now come-what-may after three decades waiting, they met with both a contractor and a plumber to discuss the issues at hand for the main downstairs bathroom.

Olive continued, "There were still things we hadn't considered. The plumber could work up an estimate. The contractor doing the rest of the work couldn't, due to potential surprises once the walls were opened up.

We were on board regardless, as it needed to be done.

As a compromise, Popeye wanted to gut the walls and ceiling to save money and time for the contractor. Yes, we found some surprises along the way. Olive's advice: Take pictures as you go.

Once the work was coordinated between the contractors and a start date was set, it was show-time!

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The radiator was changed out to a baseboard slim-line, and the window was replaced with a high horizontal one, allowing more room for towel hooks and shelving. The vanity was replaced with a longer one, necessitating the soil pipe and sink plumbing be moved over. The shower fixtures were built into the opposite end of the built-in stall to be more in line with the ceiling fan for better circulation. Part of the sub-floor needed to be replaced; and waterproof, slip-proof laminate flooring was installed.

Again, keep it classic, not trendy.

Extra outlets were added in several places. Once the walls and ceiling were opened up, insulation was replaced, and gaps in the outside structure were tightened up. Since the window was relocated, the outside of the house needed to be addressed as well.

The hardest part of the project was designing it. I picked out all the materials, including the sink and tub fixtures. Contractor-grade fixtures are superior in quality to the box-store selections, so expect some expense for better materials. Again, you get what you pay for.

Deciding what color fixtures, vanity, mirror and paint was almost overwhelming. Shades of white made the room look larger, brighter, and clean. It was a good choice for our project.

The project was expected to take a few weeks. It took a month. The cost was over what I budgeted for, but I expected it and made sure we had enough saved up to cover it. It was so worth having somebody else do the work. I joked with the contractor that this was the first time in my life that I actually paid somebody to PAINT. He was great to work with, and it turned out exactly as I wanted.

My parting advice: Bathrooms are tough. Hire a contractor to do a professional job, and you should only have to do it once. Work out your expectations ahead of time with your spouse. The smart ones say "Yes dear" and will be grateful when the project is finished.

I lost a lot of sleep over that project, sometimes thinking the worst or questioning the choices I made. Popeye was pretty much hands-off. He had no vision, and once he figured out it was getting done and I had already done all the homework and saved for it, he just stopped arguing about how he was going to do it.

The contractors made it clear it wasn't quite so easy to fix what needed to be done. Glad it's over!]


In the cartoon 'Popeye,' Olive Oyl is his love interest. Getting into dilemmas she makes him her hero saying, "Oh, dear! Help! Popeye!" His common response on settling things is, "I yams what I yams, and tha's all I yams." And everything always worked out for the couple in the end. Find your cartoon hero model, maybe it's Wonder Woman, and enjoy the process of making something better.

Remember as you plan and work, you are making a life together and you want your mate to enjoy the process and the success too.

Overview:

  • Set your design and cost goals.

  • Learn the art of compromise.

  • Play to each others strengths.

  • Set a time line.

  • Start saving and plan for unexpected costs.

  • Write it down who will be doing what.

  • Keep a sense of humor.

  • Listen to one another.

  • Be patient.

  • Expect dust and delays.

  • Once you start, keep your eye on the goal, and keep track of costs.

When done, celebrate! You and yours will enjoy your renewed space for years to come.

[Jan Youngquist]

Other handy articles on keeping a marriage together while remodeling a home:

Newly Woodwards offer solid advice to couples remodeling their home, based on real experiences

Home Source gives great advice and direction

Couples strategy to improve their shared property and domicile

 

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